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 Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:35 am |
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Location: Stafford
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| Harry wrote: |
| What I don't understand is how on earth they can be legal from factory, a range rover went past me the other day and absolutely blinded me with them |
I've never had a problem with factory HID lights.
Are you sure someone's not done a DIY conversion on this Range Rover?
Correct legal factory HID install for the UK will have:
Headlamp designed for the HID bulb.
Automatic headlamp leveling either built in to the headlamp unit OR it can use the cars self leveling suspension system
Headlamp washers. |
No idea it was an 11 plate with a 40 / 50 year old guy driving so I highly doubt it was a conversion, I see them all the time but this time it was just impossible to see when he was coming towards me.
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:48 am |
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| Golfguy206 wrote: |
I disagree, I don't think they should be made illegal.
(waits for all the the haters to comment.... )
I think if they are fitted to projector lamps (not reflector lamps) and fitted with washers and correctly aligned, I don't see the problem. |
Take it up with the department for transport then.
Car manufacturers have to stick to the rules, what makes you so special you can just ignore them then? 
www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/ro...lamps.html
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 10:58 am |
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If they are installed right there are no problems. Admittedly most people don't. I have mates with them fitted properly. Even in reflectors they not blinding in the slightest as they are the reflector designed bulbs and they point right down. Got one mate though with them pointed dead level in reflectors with standard bulbs in not the anti-glare ones and they are deadly.
I get pulled over quite a lot and nobody has ever said anything. Rule of the road keep your car maintained and be polite and 90% of police will be reasonable with you.
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:01 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: devon
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the mot only states that if hid lights are fitted and has washers and/or auto levellers they have to work it doesnt say that it has to have the washers/levellers to pass an mot with hids. looked at the new ministry print out last week. BUUUUUT design and construction i.e. what the police will do you for is a whole different matter
in my opinion if in any doubt about the legality of mods dont bother then that saves the worry and hassle 
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:22 pm |
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What do you mean fitted with washers?
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:30 pm |
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Location: Suffolk
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Ban better lighting systems, real smart.
Want to ban better road tyres too?
They are not illegal, you have ballasts which adjust as per the HID kit dont you? Just whack some headlamp washers on or dont bother and say they are uprated bulbs
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:38 pm |
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Banning an product that makes millions for the UK and world economy...real smart in a global recession
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:45 pm |
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| Lee wrote: |
| Banning an product that makes millions for the UK and world economy...real smart in a global recession |
So should the government legalise drugs and tax them?
Actually if it lowers fuel price...
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:10 pm |
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Location: England
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They should legalise weed.
If things like that were legal, then they would be a lot easier to combat....eg the amount of people who smoke
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:52 pm |
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Why ban them at all they are much better than s**t standard bulbs my dads Lexus has them
Standard with levelling and washers, and sent me to get some for the pug fitted and levelled by kwikfit never been pulled not a second look by police about them ever! You can see much more with them than normal bulbs the first "mod" I/dad approved of! Just a quick one does that mean even with angel eye projector headlights they're illegal unless they have self levelling and washers??
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:53 pm |
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Depends.
But here comes the answers....
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 4:58 pm |
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Haha yeah everyone is entitled to their opinions but I think they are a good invention/mod and as lee said they make the uk millions, everyone has them and if not fitted correctly blind people yes they shouldn't be as easy to get hold of should only sell them and where you buy them from make it mandatory that they fit them if they're "qualified" (what ever you want to say) to do so then happy days no one is blinded people can see more and making money for the suffering economy!
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:39 pm |
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Joined: Feb 02, 2011
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My dad has got a 2011 Mercedes E63 with factory xenons and the difference in night vision they make is astonishing, i have also passed him several times going the other way and they are no brighter than halogen, so I definitly agree with judgey on this, they are a massive improvement if they are fitted correctly
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 5:45 pm |
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Location: Burnley England
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| dtm_martin24 wrote: |
| My dad has got a 2011 Mercedes E63 with factory xenons and the difference in night vision they make is astonishing, i have also passed him several times going the other way and they are no brighter than halogen, so I definitly agree with judgey on this, they are a massive improvement if they are fitted correctly |
And you have a 1.4hdi like me great minds think alike hahaha!
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:53 pm |
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They are a brilliant idea.
End of thread.
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