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novatron1_2

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:44 pm

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About three years ago the back axle went on my 206 so bad the the wheel was making contact with the inner arch!

I spent ~£150 on a second hand axle online, which I'd say by the look of the brake drums was quite new. I've since done about 40,000 miles on this axle.

Now I've noticed the back left wheel has a definite lean in on at the top. I jacked the car up, put it on axle stands and gave it some proper (Elvis would be proud) shaking but I couldn't feel any play.

I've bought a replacement bearing, thinking I've caught it in time this time, but before I start tearing it apart could there be any other thing that could cause this? I can't see how I could bend the axle unless I jumped it off a cliff, and hitting a kerb would surely bend it the other way, i.e. top leaning out rather than in.

The complete lack of play worries me, but could this just be the torsion bars holding everything tight?


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Steve206

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:55 pm

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Check the stub pin which holds the rear wheel and brake assembly to the rear trailing arms. I find it hard to understand how the whole rear weight of the car is rested on these pins without an axle.


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drunknmunky

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:20 pm

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yep stub axle pin is alwasy a good one to check with that Wink

i changed mine not so long since as i had a crash and bent one but as you said it should go the other way ie top bent out as thats how mine was when i hit the curb so cant see how your s has gone the other way?

how much are we talking it is lent in at the top by? dont forget they do have a small amount of camber from factory and as you lower it you get more of it Wink

i looked at mine thinking the same after seeing it the other way for so long but its meant to be like that


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bill555

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:57 am

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Mine looked a bit like that on both sides, turned out it was just the torsion bars had seen better days (regularly carrying too much weight in the back) the back end was then sitting low and the natural camber made it look leant inwards just like drunknmunky described. Moved the torsion bars one spline and now it rides right and looks right. Bill.

novatron1_2

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:32 am

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Steve206 wrote:

Check the stub pin which holds the rear wheel and brake assembly to the rear trailing arms. I find it hard to understand how the whole rear weight of the car is rested on these pins without an axle.

Which part is the stub pin? Do you mean the stub axle that the drum rotates on?

Re the other replies only one wheel is leaning in


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drunknmunky

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:37 am

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i put up a stub axle pin diagram not so long since? was for disc setup but im sure its the same on drum its the thing that goes through the middle of it i will try and find the thread and post a link also there's a pic of the stub axle pin on one of my threads while i was fixing mine ill find that and link that too


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drunknmunky

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:44 am

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www.206info.co.uk/Foru...e+pin.html www.206info.co.uk/Foru...e+pin.html there you go one has a rear hub exploded diagram and the other is my thread which shows my bent stub axle pin and where it comes from hope its of some help to you


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novatron1_2

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 1:57 am

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yesterday I measured the gap between the arm and the axle at the top and bottom and the left hand side was definately leaning in. I started striping in using the excellent guide on here and the youtube video.

The only problem now is the torsion bar won't come out! I spend two hours yesterday smacking the arm with a mallet but nothing happened. Any ideas how I can shift it? I'm off to halfrauds this morning for some hammerite rust remover gel in the hope it will remove the rust holding it on.


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Edward

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:06 am

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Rust removal gel won't soak into the splines holding the bars in the arms. You need something like Plug Gas or another releasing oil.


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novatron1_2

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:23 am

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Ok finally got it done, looks like I caught it before any damage was done to the axle. Looking at the bearing themselves some of the rollers were worn almost to nothing whilst others look like new. Here's the axle below:

To get it off I swapped from the mallet shown on the right to the slightly larger hammer on the left

I connected two 12" and 6" 1/2" drive extension bars together and tie wrapped them to the rear axle with a sacrifical socket on the end to give me something to aim the hammer at.

A couple of useful points, firstly despite what I've read on the internet vinegar does not dissolve rust! I left some on the splines over night and in the morning it actually looked worse. I couldn't get any plusgas at halfrauds so I bought their own freezer and penetrating oil in one. When I finally got the arm off the splines were dry Sad

The Hammerite rust remover gel is brilliant! I had to replace the brake pipes on the side I changed the arm all the way back to the load valve including the flexi as they were rotten. I used the gel to dissolve the rust around the unions and managed to get them all out as well as un-seizing the load valve itself.

Having done this and changed the whole axle previously I have to say I found just changing the bearings easier


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will-sussex

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:40 pm

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I guess a pin could get bent the other way if you handbraked it round and the curb caught the inside of the (far) wheel. My 206s both have a bit of lean on em.


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Chris_Pug_206

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 2:02 pm

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Location: Larne, Northern Ireland

Did it sort the leaning issue? Reason I ask is im in the same situation. Got a 2001 xsi and shes lowered to the point that the arch sits very slightly over the tyres. Now you can put your finger between the arch and tyre on passengers side at top but the gap on drivers side top is too tight to put finger in!

DeadEyePaul

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 4:53 pm

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will-sussex wrote:

I guess a pin could get bent the other way if you handbraked it round and the curb caught the inside of the (far) wheel. My 206s both have a bit of lean on em.

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