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 Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:07 am |
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i have a gti 180 and i have just fot a set of brembo brakes from a 406,
when fitting i removed the old calipers drained the brake fluid out of the system changed the flexi hoses for braided lines fit the new calipers then put the new brake luid in and tried to bleed them by pumping the pedal with someone else tightening and slackening the bleed nipple.
however after doing this i couldn't get any pressure in the brakes at all so i took the car to my local garage who suggested replacing the master cylinder as i might have damaged a seal.
so today after they have fit the new cylinder and once again tried to bleed the brakes there is no pressure, with the car on the lift the pedal goes all the way to the floor the drivers wheel still spins freely but the passenger side is gripping very slightly...
i have read posts about having to use peugeot planet to bleed the brakes for some reason but after phoning 2 seperate peugeot garages they both didn't have a clue what i was going on about...
i'm desperate for any help on this as i'm at a bit of a dead end and i was hoping to go to trax in a couple of weeks(already have tickets bought with 2 sessions of track time)
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:24 am |
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the reason for pug planet to involve is to open the ABS pump in case any air was trapped inside..
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:29 am |
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ok so have you any idea why there would be no brakes after bleeding them...i have been looking about and found some stuff about needing to change the master cylinder or the servo to a 406 model aswell but then other people say it's not needed...
can anyone shed some light on this?
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:35 am |
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faulty bleed valve?
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:41 am |
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as in the bleed nipple??
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:28 am |
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Would the clutch need bleeding? They use the same reservior, but i dont know if it affects the brakes. Have you asked the garage to check them? What are the seals like on the brakes?
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:53 am |
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Who did you speak to at the Peugeot garage? Did you ask for the service department? Mine are all pretty clued up.
I had a simliar problem. Thought it was the ABS PUMP but turned out i put the wrong caliper on the incorrect side
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Last edited by DeadEyePaul on Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:58 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:57 am |
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The hose connection has to be at the top.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:00 pm |
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Do you have a ezibleed kit? That forces clean fluid through master cyclinder and all the air comes out the bleed nipples. Do the rears first then the drivers side then passengers
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:31 pm |
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the calipers are on with the bleed nipple to the top which is how the garage said was the correct way to fit them,
it has not been done with the eazibleed thing as i dont have one of them they have only been bled manually
would there be any signs that air had got into the abs pump or not??
does anyone know if i would need to change the master cylinder or the servo to that of a 406 to match the calipers?
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:38 pm |
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Did you completely empty the reservoir when fitting the new brakes?
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:41 pm |
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yeah would that let air into the abs pump
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:56 pm |
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| Chris180 wrote: |
| yeah would that let air into the abs pump |
you will have a nightmare bleeeding it if youve let all the fluid drain right out will need a pressure bleeder had a lot of problems bleeding a 307 with abs at work after a brake pipe had broken and it had run out of fluid 
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:24 pm |
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| Chris180 wrote: |
| yeah would that let air into the abs pump |
Thats your problem then, all the brakes would need bleeding, possibly the abs pump as well.
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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:02 pm |
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i have the set up on my gti and with a standard MC its fine little more travel
you can change the master cylinder but unless your tracking it alot there really is no point
as for the air i assume it will be because of the master cylinder being empty as mentioned above
try pressure bleeding shoudl cure it from what i have been told
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