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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:40 pm |
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Location: manchester
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[b]I'm 18 year old and as every lads dream is to buy a car, i bought this 1.1 litre peaugeot lx, it seems fine untill i got insured on it, the engine mangement light keeps coming on then cuts out when its on half way on the temperture gage it runs fine for aprox 15-20 minutes, ive tried changing a few things and put it on a machine which came up no faults? it starts back up fine but this could cause a risk of me crashin and i need to get the fault sorted asap?
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:43 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 898
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Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire
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What diagnostics machine did you connect up to the car?
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:46 pm |
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i didn't do it myself, i took it to a local garage who put it on the ramp and plugged it into his laptop which he said it came up with no faults, he also said the previous owner took it there and it came up the same
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:53 pm |
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Weve had them come into work before and they owners have said theyve had it read and nothing has come up. As soon as weve connected ours up, its shown a list of codes. Sometimes the cheap code readers arnt much use, not saying thats the case with yours but ive never had one in at work with the light displayed and yet no codes. It might be worth trying another garage.
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:56 pm |
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thank you for your help, ill take it to another garage on monday and see what they say
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:58 pm |
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Location: Melton Mowbray Leicestershire
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Out of interest what have you tried changing so far?
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:58 pm |
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Out of interest what have you tried changing so far?
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:02 pm |
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new temperture sensor, new spark plugs, new air filter, tried changing petrol stations ( apprantly morrisons petrol makes it cut out with other cars so moved to asda but still does the same) my mate who knows about cars said it could be the timeing belt or fuel injectors?
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:05 pm |
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When does it cut out? When slowing down to a stop or randomly?
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:12 pm |
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when slowing down, and driving it for around 10-15 minutes, the light comes on, loose power, engine cuts out but starts back up fine without any struggles, i have read alot of forums and apprantly its quite common for the 206? just stuck and dont know what to do
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Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 6:32 pm |
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Joined: Feb 04, 2012 Posts: 33
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Location: Scotland
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Hi
Just an idea with it cutting out, it could be the coil pack that is causing the problem. They are know to cause the same problems on mk2 clios, so it could be worth changing, dont think they are too expensive. Other things i think it could be are either tdc sensor or idle control valve. Both cause similar problems when bad mainly engine cutting out etc.
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:31 am |
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Location: Bath UK
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As said above, I'd want to read the codes with a reliable reader first just to make sure nothing was missed
You don't say whether, after the first engine stoppage, it's ok then for the rest of the journey or whether it keeps doing it
If the crank/rpm sensor signal causes the running engine stoppage you'd get a fault code stored and I'd expect a fault code for an ignition coil fault too.
It seems like a temperature related fault with something going open/ short circuit whilst it's warming up (although 15mins is a long time for an engine warming up in Summer).
When there's no fault code stored with a running engine stopping then it can be because the ECU was out of action when the fault occured and therefore unable to store anything but if the EML comes on long before the engine cuts out then it won't be that
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the engine mangement light keeps coming on then cuts out when its on half way on the temperture gage
so does the light keep coming on well before the engine cuts out or is it pretty much together?
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:59 am |
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deskchair5 - you say so does the light keep coming on well before the engine cuts out or is it pretty much together?
well to be honest it its pretty much all together, ive had a few people look at it and they have no idea what it could be?
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:16 am |
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And after the first engine stopping from cold, it restarts ok straightaway? or do you have to wait awhile before it evenutally restarts? The fault doesn't then happen again for the rest of the journey?
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:50 am |
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if its not coming up with faults then its intermittent, my best guess is a coil pack, i had the same issue with my 1.1, so i bought a new coil pack but never fitted it as i just decided to hit the coil pack with a spanner and it seem to fix it,
So if you are interested i have a coil pack for a 1.1 sitting in my shed, or you can try my way, haha
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