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 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:23 pm |
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Hello everyone, I'll start at the beginning so everyone understands my problem.
Before I got my Peugeot 206 it was sitting for about 2 years, I got it on the road and I hated the handling, It felt like I was driving a boat going around corners, I can feel myself slide of my seat, now this may seem I'm driving too fast but infact I'm not. To be honest most of the times I'm to scared to even go to 60mph even on a straight.
What I have done so far is that I've changed the back shocks and the front shocks, from standard Peugeot Oil to Gas KYB Excel-G shocks, and my car feels the same, no change in the feeling, still feels like a boat, the only difference so far is my front Ride height has gone up 1.5inchs, I did use the old Springs, was this a mistake? Currently, my rear height from Tyre to arch is 2.5Inch, and front driver side 4inch and Passenger side 4.25inch - not really sure why this is higher. My car does looks stupid at front, like I'm driving a monster truck, but this doesn't really bother me, but do you think changing my springs will help my problem? lowering it to about 2.5inch the same as the rear?
Peugeot Garage told me that springs does nothing but hold the car up, it's the shocks that needs changing but I've already changed these and it feels completely the same.
I'm sorry for this massive post but I hope someone can help me and point me to the right direction.
Thanks for reading.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:36 pm |
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Have you got correct tyre pressures 31psi I believe?
What size wheels and tyres?
Any other worn suspension components?
The front anti-roll bar present and connected?
No excess war in drop links?
Increasing the ride height will not help but if it isn't worse than before something else isn't right.
Finally I have assumed that you are sliding off your seat due to excess body roll in the corners - is that what you are describing?
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:47 pm |
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anti roll bar linkages might have play in them?
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:50 pm |
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Hello, I have changed both arms, track ends, Links, strut bearings and shocks, and still have same issue, My alloys are the Nimrod 16inch, tyres are 195/45/16. tyre Psi is 31.5 I believe. And yes sorry I do mean body roll, wasn't sure how to describe the problem.
Thanks
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:53 pm |
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does it roll more when turning a certain direction by anychance or is it same for left and right?
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 5:55 pm |
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The only thing I can now suggest is to get another 206 driver to drive it ans see what they think. It sounds like you have changed all the components that would cause severe body roll.
Weak springs won't help but to have fitted new shocks and drop links and it still be poor is odd.
Damaged ARB (cracked?), really weak springs or you have an elephant strapped to the bonnet and aren't telling us.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:01 pm |
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Did you fit the right struts?
You haven't said what model of 206 you have. Some models sit lower at the front than others.
Measure the ride height from the centre of the hub to the bottom of the arch, and ask someone with the same model to measure theirs, or better still ask someone with access to Autodata for the correct ride height. This will tell you if your settings are out and may help to highlight the problem.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:06 pm |
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It is horrible when turning left, and I hate it, I don't think it's as bad when turning right, but maybe because I don't slide as I'm touching the driver door. but turning left at corners is horrible.
and kandlebarrett I cant stop laughing haha, no there is no elephant on the bonnet, and just to clear up something I only weigh 12 stone so I don't think this should effect anything.
I don't know if this is related but If I go over a bumpy track my steering wheels goes crazy... even when I drive on the road and go over the smallest bump I can feel feedback coming back to the steering wheel like it wants to turn. but this could be another problem. I've spent so much money to try and fix this issue and I'm going no where.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:08 pm |
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I have a 206 Xsi 1.6 16v, I went through KYB website and got the part numbers which matched my car.
I will measure from center cap to Arch tomorrow morning.
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:24 pm |
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It is horrible when turning left, and I hate it, I don't think it's as bad when turning right, but maybe because I don't slide as I'm touching the driver door. but turning left at corners is horrible.
and kandlebarrett I cant stop laughing haha, no there is no elephant on the bonnet, and just to clear up something I only weigh 12 stone so I don't think this should effect anything.
I don't know if this is related but If I go over a bumpy track my steering wheels goes crazy... even when I drive on the road and go over the smallest bump I can feel feedback coming back to the steering wheel like it wants to turn. but this could be another problem. I've spent so much money to try and fix this issue and I'm going no where. |
I used to have this problem with my car the extra feedback turned out the wishbone was gone but then again it stil does do it abit now
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 3:30 am |
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Also the higher the car is, the more body roll your going to get as it raises the centre of gravity. The only other thing you could do it get shorter springs so it sits a bit lower than standard (doesnt have to be a lot) and with uprated shocks this should make cornering feel a bit better.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:01 am |
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are front shocks made in left and right? Or are both the same? Just in case left was installed on the right and right installed on the left. I'm going to purchase springs today I was hoping someone can tell me the best springs to buy that will happily fit in kyb shocks, I wouldn't mind dropping the front ride height about 2 inches aswell leaving 2 inch cap from tyre to arch.
Cheers
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:25 am |
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Sounds as though the shocks aren't fitted properly. Bit of a strange combo though, uprated shocks and standard springs, normally the other way round! Uprated springs are normally 10 - 15 % stiffer, I can definitely feel the difference in mine 
The best springs are probably eibach and weitec from what ive heard, hope this helps.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 4:48 am |
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What about getting a strut brace? This will be cheaper for my pocket? Will this help?
I've been looking for eibach springs and they sell front and back together? Will the rear fit? Because I thought I had torsion bar.
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:14 am |
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Yes the rear is a torsion bar and springs at the front
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