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 Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:23 am |
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Joined: Apr 18, 2013
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Location: Ashington, Northumberland
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Ok before I swap my Cyclones to my 206 I'm getting confused here.
I'm led to believe that UK law states the 3/4 of the central tread must be intact however there must be no dangerous defects on the other 1/4.
Now my mate is telling me the tyre on my Cyclone is legal but I say no. Now I won't drive on a s**t tyre anyway, in my days as a truck driver I saw too many accidents to take a risk. But what is actually the law here? It seeems a minefield.
Do you say to Mr Plod "Look mate 75% of my tread is legal so do one" or simply replace said tyre?
It'll be a shame to replace the sports tyre on one of the Cyclones when one edge is worn and the rest is 6mm but tha'ts life.
Don't just look at the outer edge, get underneath and have a good look. The tracking was knocked out on the 106 and it destroyed the tyres.
It'll be interersting to see what the views are.
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:47 am |
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should be fine on the rear with worn side on the outer edge as there cambered slightly and dont ware olut as quick but i would measure it to see what its worn to 75% is legal as you said
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:06 pm |
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Joined: Jan 05, 2011
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Location: North Manchester
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Take the tyre/tyres to the MOT station you use. Whatever they say is your answer. No point in asking friends as everybody has a different opinion or belief.
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:48 pm |
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Joined: Apr 03, 2011
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Location: Over that hill.
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www.motuk.co.uk/manual_410.htm
My tyre is almost bald on the shoulder, yet the central tread is 2mm above legal limit (3.6mm total). MOT guys said it would pass no probs, but would be an advisory.
Need to get that tracking done :-)))
Anyway, im same, bought 4 new tyres cuz the ones I got at the moment are just pants when it rains.
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:45 am |
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Location: Essex
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Minimum of 1.6mm on 75% with visible tread on the remainder.
But I wouldn't risk it if its even close to that....
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:27 am |
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Location: Ashington, Northumberland
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E5 you hit the nail on the head with "visible tread on the remainder". That's the grey area. Some will say it's ok, some would fail a MoT for it. Whilst my Cyclones are in the back yard getting a good polish I took a good look at the profile of the tyres.
Now speaking as a former motorcycle racer I have to go with caution here. Tyres are the one thing that seperate you from life and death. It doesn't matter how good your brakes and suspension are, if your tyres don't grip then you die. That is cold hard fact.
So when I look at the tyres with the wheels off the car and see the profile is markedly altered it's time to change the tyres and not take the risk. Yes they're legal but are they safe? It may just be that extra metre before you hit something but you have to ask if those tyres were 100% would I have stopped sooner?
The Manic Munchkin doesn't drive and she took one look at the profile of those tyres and said "change them". That's the mo0ral of the story. If someone who can't control a shopping trolley in Tesco says something then you know it's right
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:25 am |
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| HowlingMadMurdock wrote: |
| E5 you hit the nail on the head with "visible tread on the remainder". That's the grey area. Some will say it's ok, some would fail a MoT for it. |
No grey area for me. The law says must be visible tread otherwise you get 3 points and a fine upto £2500. No Brainer really.
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986
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27.—(1) Save as provided in paragraphs (2), (3) and (4), a wheeled motor vehicle or trailer a wheel of which is fitted with a pneumatic tyre shall not be used on a road, if—
(f)the base of any groove which showed in the original tread pattern of the tyre is not clearly visible; |
Personally I prefer to change a tyre when it gets to 3mm on any part of the tread surface.
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:38 am |
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Joined: Apr 18, 2013
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Location: Ashington, Northumberland
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Best advice of all Macca
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:49 am |
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Joined: Apr 03, 2011
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Location: Over that hill.
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I agree. Tread visible and above 1.6mm over the entire width of the tyre is best, obviiusly.
But the law is so simple with tyres. The tread does NOT have to be visible on shoulder of a car tyre. It only has to be visible on an lorry. Of any weight size or nature.
You can NOT get fined for having bald shoulders. Simple as. Aslong as the wire isnt visible, and there are no tears, gashes, slits in the shoulder and the tyre is pumped up to a minimum of manufacturers psi/bar rating.
Dont confuse the law for cars and lorrys. Entirely different pieces of legislation.
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:50 am |
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Joined: Apr 18, 2013
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Location: Ashington, Northumberland
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Cheers Morris. As a former HGV driver I totally agree
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