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 Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:13 am |
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As the title says, I want to replace the air filter in my XSi, don't know if its worth investing 30£ or simply buy an OEM one for 8£..
Pros\Cons?
Thanks!
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:35 am |
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I always change my OEM air filters to a K&N one. Simply, because I get a higher MPG.
But, you also only have to clean it every 50,000 miles or so. So, instead of replacing a rubbish paper air filter, I just check it for leaves!
Chris
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 8:48 am |
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Thanks Chris,
I think I didn't explain myself correctly.. I actually know the pro's and con's of the higher end panel filters, my question is, are they so much better than OEM one's that they are worth investing 4 times the money on?, I mean, yeah, after 4 OEM filter replacing I could have bought a k&n one and I got my money's worth, but I'm more interested to know about noise levels (louder isn't worse for me..) and the general "feel" of the performance after swapping (real not placebo..)
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:04 am |
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That K&M filter will always be worth £15-£20 second hand so you'll be able to sell it afterwards.
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:38 am |
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Clearly it's a pro money-wise, but what about performance? Is it that much of a difference?
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:59 pm |
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no its not.... but its better than OEM
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 1:19 pm |
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Hello Omri,how are you doing?hope all is well,been so long since you post in here,well to have a K&N is the best ,but you how the weather can be in here,a lil dust every now and then specially in summer,so it's better if you stick to the OEM one 
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 1:22 pm |
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not the case.... you can blow out the K&N with an airline to keep it in better condition.... unlike a paper OEM 
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 1:42 pm |
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Timon! How are you buddy? Well I was thinking about selling the 206 but decided to hold on to it for now so as long as it's here to stay I might as well take care of it.. Funny because since I decided to keep it I've grown even more fond of it nice to hear from you too!
Macj - thanks for the reply mate, I can understand k&n is "better" just because it is.. But still wanted to hear what people have to say about it, I think I'll end up going for one eventually.
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Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 9:11 pm |
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I got a K&N for mine ages ago.
Mrs' came with a BMC when we bought it from the previous owner.
I really investigated both and decided they were letting less air through than a standard paper filter.
So I cleaned, v. lightly re-oiled with the proper stuff and again, less air-flow.
Cleaned a second time, even less (hardly any) oil and still couldn't get an improvement.
I decided maybe they were permanently clogged somehow OR not doing what their claiming.
Still have them and will check with PP2000 (intake mBar vacum from MAP sensor?) to make a better conclusion, when I get some time.
Good to see both of you (and macj..) btw.
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 12:12 am |
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V9977 good to see you too buddy, great answer! exactly what I wanted to hear, how exactly did you measure the intake amount? I'll still wait to learn more about it before I'll decide on an aftermarket vs OEM.
Have a good day in beautiful Athens!
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 4:04 am |
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Well, I think the best way of checking might be to go in Peugeot Planet real-time data, and look at the manifold absolute pressure reading comparing with the paper and K&N filters. Surely the more air-flow allowed would give a higher reading and also a different angle on the ICV stepper too (for a given rpm). I haven't got round to doing this yet though, anyone know why it wouldn't work?
Previous checks have been very obvious by inspection, but it was a while back and I wouldn't offer as real evidence.
Lefteris
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