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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:57 am |
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Joined: May 23, 2010 Posts: 23
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Location: derby
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my engine has blown in my 206 XSI 1.6 and want to stick a GTI 2.0l engine isn't it would it fit in or not please help guys??
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:35 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage
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This is the most common question asked on this forum.
Of course it will fit, it's still a 206 after all. You just need engine, gearbox, subframe, gear linkage, hubs, drive shafts, exhaust, PAS pipes...ECU...all the wiring...
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:43 pm |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Posts: 4266
Trade Rating: +4
Location: Palestine
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Edward wrote: |
This is the most common question asked on this forum.
Of course it will fit, it's still a 206 after all. You just need engine, gearbox, subframe, gear linkage, hubs, drive shafts, exhaust, PAS pipes...ECU...all the wiring... |
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:35 pm |
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Joined: May 23, 2010 Posts: 23
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Location: derby
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i just wanted to make sure thats all guys cheers anyways
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:31 pm |
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Joined: Jan 15, 2013 Posts: 244
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The real answer is yes it fits but why struggle with doing it and affording it when you may as well just buy a gti...and dont think you can avoid the insurance prices because as soon as u get a problem u will be discovered and in deep doodie then..
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Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:07 pm |
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Joined: May 23, 2010 Posts: 23
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Location: derby
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cuz my xsi is custom st orange paint job and modified to f*** so i just want the engine instead of a whole new car lol
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:56 am |
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Joined: Aug 04, 2011 Posts: 1343
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Location: Swindon
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See Edwards reply, it isn't just the engine........
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:40 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 5400
Trade Rating: +105
Location: Stafford
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'modified to f***'
In all honesty it really isn't worth it for the small bhp increase. A decent setup cammed XSI will see the same power anyway and be a hell of a lot easier.
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:52 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage
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But the 1.6 will never compete on torque though.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:57 am |
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Joined: Oct 10, 2012 Posts: 1917
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Location: Spalding
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Is there any reason you can't just rebuild the engine? would this not be a better option?
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:19 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 5400
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Location: Stafford
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Unless the GTI is going to be modified, I still don't think it's worth the hassle.
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:29 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11520
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Location: What's it to you? ? ?
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It wasn't worth doing engine conversions on 206's 5 years ago, nothing's changed.
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:34 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage
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A 180 conversion on a 206 SW Si could be nice.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:41 am |
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Joined: Jan 15, 2013 Posts: 244
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Hey Edward what improvements in the numbers are you gettin with your uprated 138??and for the engine bay extras including all the engine improvements how much would you say its cost without the susspension and things away from the engine bay???would appreciate a ball park figure to improve my 138???
Thanks man..
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Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:37 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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There's about £8k gone into that engine...that won't include all the little bits like nuts and bolts and all the little bits which cost a fair bit.
Exhaust £1,300
VB mounts £200
Cylinder head would be about £800 new
New Peugeot hydraulic lifters £350
TB's, Omex ECU, cams, verniers, injectors, mapping, oil, gaskets, coolant etc £4,000
Inlet manifold £100
ITG air filter and baseplate £150
90mm air horns £140
Thermostat housing £100
Auto electrician and wiring components £450
Radtec radiator and fan £500
Samco hoses £70
elec power steering pump £35
PAS pump bracket £15
PAS piping £50
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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