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 Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:43 pm |
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You can try the bounce test. Push down hard on the wing and let go quickly and the car should bounce back up past normal ride height and then settle down. If it bounces more than that the dampers are knackered. The problem you may have is that some lowering springs are so stiff you can't push the car down to get a decent bounce for a good test. Having two people press on the wing may help but stiff springs can make it hard to really test the dampers.
The only other way is to take it apart. Really bad dampers have almost no resistance when moved by hand but partially failed ones really need a side by side test against new dampers.
It sounds like you may have knackered the dampers by regularly bottoming them out after cutting the bump stops.
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Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:21 pm |
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I might as well buy coilovers, will be a lot cheaper for me
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:38 pm |
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Probably a few people willing to buy your springs.
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:33 pm |
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Anyway, thanks Kandlbarrett for the advice once again on suspension components. KYB have offered to send out replacements and pick my old dampers at the same time, you reckon if I run the eibach pro kit 30mm the same thing will happen eventually?
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:51 am |
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That is a bit difficult to know. It depends on why they failed was it due to poor manufacture or because they were coming to the end of their stroke before the car was on the bump stops. If it was due to the dampers coming to the end of their stroke then yes they will fail again - as will any other damper that does this.
I haven't actually looked at the bump stop arrangement on a 206 but it might be worth removing the springs refitting dampers only and then lower the car slowly back onto the ground and see which is bottoming first - damper or bump stop.
If it is the damper then you still have the option of fitting new or second hand bump stops and either leaving them standard or removing a bit at a time but not so much that the damper gets to the end of its stroke.
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:14 am |
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I understand, so to be totally honest I could have the incorrect bump stop on my car, I won't have time to remove the components until next week, but I could add extra bump stop now and cable tie it to see if this will help. Of course I could be way to late now as I might of killed my dampers
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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:11 pm |
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Yes I think you understand now and I imagine it is way to late for your dampers but it might not be it might just be the damper bottoming before hitting the bump stop. You need to get the dampers off, seperated from the springs and see if they appear to be working OK. You also need to make sure the dampers aren't bottoming before the car hits the bump stop.
If you can get enough weight into or on the front of the car you might be able to check the bottoming issue without taking anything apart.
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