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 Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 9:27 am |
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Just done my first 206 oil change and first change ever on a car that uses a paper cartridge/housing set up.
Fairly straightforward although I gave up on getting the housing off by hand and bought a 27mm socket from B and Q and I'm glad I did because man had somebody screwed that thing on tight. It came off ok and had to prise out the old filter with a screwdriver as it just wouldn't budge.
Anyway new filter in , 2.5 litres of Shell Helix in and no leaks.
Just a quick question. I had a little bit of the old oil left in the housing (about and inch deep) was gonna try to mop this up but just went ahead and did the oil change anyway as it was starting to rain.
New oil is not light golden its very dark. Is this OK or will I have to treat this oil change as an engine flush !
Cheers for any advice*
* Just had a blast round the houses. Looking a lot lighter now like new oil so must have just needed to mix. Cheers !
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:29 pm |
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2.5litres?????
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 1:07 pm |
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Well that's going by the plastic bottle and it looks just over 2 1/2 litres, to be fair more like 2 3/4 .
I always do my own oil changes and have the fill mark halfway between min and max. ( I know some people say it should always be close to the max line but I've done this for years and no problems )
Cheers
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:58 pm |
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2.5 litres of oil, something isn't right. What engine is it? Did you drain the old oil from the sump first? New oil will stay clean for a few thousand miles, so if yours is already dark brown its mixed with old.
I think the minimum oil change on a small engine would be 4.5 litres.
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:16 pm |
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Yeah sump drained till dry. There was a little left in the Filter housing but I think this is unavoidable.
I put in 2 3/4 which shows just above halfway on Dipstick. Sure this is right as my old Citreon Saxo only needed just under 3 litres when changing the oil and that was a TU engine.
The oil colour is now lighter after mixing and a drive about. To be honest I don't think that oil had been changed for over a year
All seems fine now. Will change oil again in 6 months.
Cheers
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:47 pm |
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1.4 or 1.6?
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:54 pm |
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It's fairly normal for oil to become black after you change it as you will never get all the old oil out when draining from the sump. As long as your oil level is in the middle on the dipstick it will be fine. Iirc my tu 1.1 only took around three litres. I always replace the oil filter first as it will drain the oil in the housing into the sump then drain the oil.
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:58 pm |
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Its a 1.4 8V
Is there supposed to be oil left in the filter housing as I thought this would have drained away with the rest of the oil. Seems a bit daft if you are trying to drain away all the old black oil.
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Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 11:20 pm |
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3.5 Litres.
What oil are you using by the way?
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:53 am |
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Getting the engine warm before removing the sump plug helps. The heat thins the oil and makes it drain easier. I usually wait until the sump is warm to the touch to avoid burning myself, and then take the sump plug out. While it's draining I get on with other things like the oil filter, plugs, air filter that way the sump has a good 20 minutes to drain.
It's about 1 litre between minimum and maximum on the dipstick so if you've put around 2.5 litres in, you won't be far off.
According to Peugeot, you'll only get 3 litres out if draining by gravity, 3.25 if using suction, so yes you will still have some of the old oil in the engine and it's nothing to worry about.
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:07 pm |
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Cheers
I use Shell Helix HX7 10 -40W (by the way all the oil is on special offer at ECP at the moment )
Yeah that sounds about right with regards to the oil amounts and good point about some old oil will always remain in the sump etc
I think that the housing may have a drain valve that activates when you release the filter from the housing hence plastic stem on the filter. It looks like mine is stuck shut although I could be wrong on that !
Cheers
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