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 Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:05 am |
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Hows it going, just finished doing the water pump, timing belt and other service sort of things. Before i realised you have to lock the cams and crank i removed the pulley without using the tool, so ordered tool and re-timed the motor. However now the new belt tensoiners and pump are on, the motor wont ignite, it just cranks over and choofs out of the exhaust and the throttle body. what is this? We thought maybe we where out 180 degrees (not on compression) with the crank, so turned it over, but still does the same thing. Anybody know what this is and why? thanks heaps, Aaron.
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:55 am |
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Not got a clue because I don't know which lump you have under the bonnet.
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:16 am |
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its a 180
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:23 am |
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the lump is ew10j4s
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:39 am |
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Sounds like one or more of the inlet valves is open on the compression stroke. This could be down to bad timing or a damaged valve
Might be worth re-checking the timing and turning the crank through 360 degrees while the belt is off. Cylinder 1 would then be on the exhaust stroke instead of the compression and so on for the other cylinders.
Do this carefully and before cranking the car on the starter, turn the engine using a spanner to make sure the valves and pistons don't meet. Sometimes easier to remove the spark plugs so that you aren't fighting the compression when you do this.
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Last edited by macca1411 on Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:51 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:45 am |
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Did you crank it twice by hand to check for no interference? EML light on? What guide did you use for timing?
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:50 am |
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not sure what the guide is, but ill link it : peugeot-citroen.net/im...4-2004.PDF
I locked the cams and crank together using the Peugoet locking tool kit aswell. yeah we turned the motor alot of times with a ratchet to ensure there was no valves hitting the cylinders. Whats EML light? the engine light stays on whille cranking the motor via starter motor if that means anything. It sounds like it wantas to go but just doesnt 
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:20 am |
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EML is engine light. Did you disconnect anything.
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:34 am |
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How did you lock the crank?
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:47 am |
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yes locked the crank and disconnected battery and coilpack
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:54 am |
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using the special tool, fits into the hole in the back of the motor
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:11 am |
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Get someone that KNOWS what there doing to look at it before you make things any worse.
Its ok having access to special tools but when you haven't got a clue how to use them this is when expensive f**k ups happen.
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:45 am |
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Don't these engines have a floating crank?
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:37 am |
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The timing will be out. Had the same problem after I done the head gasket on my mg and even though it was locked off it had somehow rotated 90 degrees and done the same as what yours is doing
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:49 am |
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I thought the whole point of this forum was to help those that needed help, not to tell them to take it to "someone who knows what they're doing" If someone has the confidence to try and do it themselves then with the right help there is no reason why they shouldn't be able to do these jobs themselves, learning how to do it and have the knowledge to pass onto others !!
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