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MrBSI

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:57 am

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This is just yet another DIY GTI 180 timing belt gone wrong thread to add to the ever growing list on here


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macj

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:13 am

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With all the best will in the world you are performing the biggest engine killer in the automotive industry..... the cam belt change.... I always suggest that you read up on it, you seek advice before attempting it and you double check all your stages as you go.
In simple terms, measure twice, cut once.

As for your current predicament I suggest you get a local mobile mechanic to come and run his eye over it before you go any further.

Edward

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:38 am

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kwakzx7r wrote:

If someone has the confidence to try and do it themselves then with the right help there is no reason why they shouldn't be able to do these jobs themselves!

Seems a little knowledge and confidence is dangerous! Surely you studied and researched the job before you started it?


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omega

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:46 am

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kwakzx7r wrote:

I thought the whole point of this forum was to help those that needed help, not to tell them to take it to "someone who knows what they're doing" If someone has the confidence to try and do it themselves then with the right help there is no reason why they shouldn't be able to do these jobs themselves, learning how to do it and have the knowledge to pass onto others !!

I think people are worried that you will damage your engine costing you more than getting someone in who knows what they doing!


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kwakzx7r

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:20 pm

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omega wrote:

kwakzx7r wrote:

I think people are worried that you will damage your engine costing you more than getting someone in who knows what they doing!

I have seen poster's here post "if you have to ask that then you shouldn't be doing it" !!!!! just because someone doesn't know the particular car they have just bought, it doesn't mean they are incapable and should be able to post asking a genuine question without fear of being labeled an idiot for asking Confused

Addaz

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 3:24 pm

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Youve f****d it. Simple as. Do a compression check and when you find its down on one or more cylinderd, im offering £250 for it


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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:31 pm

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OUCH!


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Aaron180

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:00 pm

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Compression test results:
Cylinder 1: 3psi/40kpa
cylinder 2: 3psi/40kpa
cylinder 3: 4psi/60kpa
cylinder 4: 4psi/60kpa

I recorded many results but basicaly each cylinder reached about 60kpa and nothing over. This leads me to think i havent bent a valve, but maybe 1 or 2 teeth out on the inlet cam. As the compression stroke is coming up, the one of the two intake valves are slighty open and the compression is escaping. This weekend i will re-time the motor and re-test. Will keep thread updated.

Aaron.

kandlbarrett

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:19 am

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I have never see compression that low even with one or two teeth out. I hope you are right but I don't think so.


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Steve206

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:54 am

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Does seem low.


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Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:56 am

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MrBSI

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:41 am

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It's a prototype low compression EW10J4S engine


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Edward

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:37 am

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I've seen an engine with no head on with a higher compression.


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macj

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:04 pm

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it could be fuccked

Addaz

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:55 pm

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The timings in correct. But there is still a high chance all the valves are slightly bent


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