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 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:11 pm |
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I take you want the injectors away from the valves for better atomisation? Does this modification yield for anything more or just that?
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:13 pm |
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Location: Essex
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I used the standard Pug cable with a solderless nipple and found it to be fine if your not intending to pull it to bits a lot....... not what happened to me unfortunately so the splayed cable has to be replaced due to trimming back to get it back on 
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:17 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Location: In the garage
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| Addaz wrote: |
| I take you want the injectors away from the valves for better atomisation? Does this modification yield for anything more or just that? |
It cant do any harm although the emissions at idle speed could be affected by positioning the injectors further upstream.
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| I used the standard Pug cable with a solderless nipple and found it to be fine if your not intending to pull it to bits a lot....... not what happened to me unfortunately so the splayed cable has to be replaced due to trimming back to get it back on |
I've used the Jenvey cable now with the new outer cable and I've attached a Jenvey cable trunnion to the top of the pedal.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:08 pm |
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Location: Suffolk
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| Edward wrote: |
| Addaz wrote: |
| I take you want the injectors away from the valves for better atomisation? Does this modification yield for anything more or just that? |
It cant do any harm although the emissions at idle speed could be affected by positioning the injectors further upstream. |
True, i noticed longman did this on his engines, i've just never seen a true great benefit. As some of the charge could be lost in pockets in the body, but then saying this it would dramatically reduce the chance of hot spots in the chamber
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 8:28 am |
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Got some toys for Christmas...dollies and a car cover. Dollies under the rear wheels let me push the car sideways in the garage giving a bit more space in the garage.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:19 am |
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Location: cleaning the car
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They wouldn't be the Clarke dollies would they just bought them for my project seem pretty decent
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:27 am |
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They certainly are. Made use of the VAT free voucher they sent.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:56 am |
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Joined: Jun 04, 2010
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great idea with the dollies, guessing the cover is mainly for dust reduction lol
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:35 pm |
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More spending! It has taken a bit of time to work out if it was even possible to fit the Jenvey rail and plumb it into any of the standard fuel system. So I started looking at what's available. After a bit of research it turns out the standard fuel rail, filter and most other connections are called 5/16" male/female quick connects.
Underneath the car just near the drivers seat lives the connector below. The measurements match those of the Aeromotive 5/16" male quick connect. So it made sense that their female quick connect would attach to it. I had to get the measurements from Aeromotives technical dept in the US.
This is Aeromotives Female quick connect. I believe this might be designed for a Ford.
So with a small amount of modification (I.e. removal of the bigger ring on the male part) the Aeromotive quick connect slid on and locked perfectly. I did want to run a braided hose all the way back to the filter but the length of the quick connect is too long to fit.
I think I need a JIC -06 fitting (AN-06) to attach to the quick connect. Or it could be an ORB-06. One has an O-ring, the other doesn't. The packaging suggests one thing but the Aeromotive website suggests the other.
As that end is sorted I bought a Jenvey fuel rail.
So next week I need a length of -06 Goodridge braided hose, a cap for one end of the fuel rail, a couple of hose end fittings and a male to male JIC adaptor.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:46 pm |
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The Jenvey rail comes with injector clips but they don't fit the GTi 180 injectors I have fitted. I have modified the standard Peugeot injector clips slightly.
The reason for the Jenvey clips not fitting is the design of the injector. The locking groove is in the wrong place, works ok on the standard rail but not the Jenvey one.
Peugeot injectors only have one locking groove.
Other injectors have two grooves which is what I need for the Jenvey clips to fit.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:25 pm |
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Joined: Jan 12, 2014
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Location: The Netherlands
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The quick connects are a nice solution!
Why do you want to use a Jenvey fuel rail instead of the stock one?
I had to adjust the injector (Mini's 310-330cc) clips to my stock fuel rail haha
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 2:20 am |
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The Jenvey rail and braided hoses look faster! I'm sure the original injector positioning will be better for low speed emissions but I just wanted to finish it off! It's just a bit of an expensive extravagance. Fuel mixing at higher engine speeds should be better though.
It's a bit like the Jenvey linkage. It doesn't do anything that the original didn't but it looks a lot better.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 5:02 am |
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:27 am |
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It already has an Omex 600 ECU in the glove box.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:27 am |
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Location: UK
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What goes in the original injector holes now?
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