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 Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 12:43 pm |
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Hey everyone,
Finally found a forum that looks good.
Right basically in a nutshell, I've had my 206 since May 2014 and only done 20 miles in it since actually purchasing it due to me only passin my test 1 month ago.
Since November, I have been experiencing difficulties with the cars electronics. The ABS, Airbag & engine warning lights are all on. Alongside this my speedometer does not work. (Speedo used to work and then drop, not doesn't work at all).
Now the original battery was still in the car when I bought it, it completely died as the car was just sat outside my home for months. I jump started it and then noticed the ABS light come on followed by then the other warning lights.
Now I did take it to the garage in November and have the warning lights cleared hoping it was just because the battery went flat, once they cleared it, warning lights just come back on. I then just treated my Pug with a new battery. Reset the warning lights again and still come back on.
The car seems to drive relatively well with no actual problems. Juggers a little I've noticed when in a low gear but possibly maybe because gear is To low for speed...
Taken it garage today to have a diagnostics done on it and they haven't been able to find the problem with just having it run on their systems. He asked me if anything has happened when removing or replacing battery.
Not that I know of...
Does anyone have any ideas what is up with it? It's "driving" me nuts...
Thanks
Rob
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:14 pm |
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Welcome to the site.
I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not aware of the correct procedures for shutting down the BSI or rebooting which should of been taken before changining the battery and if you undertake any electrical work?
Being new to 206's I would give this a read when you get 5mins, will help you out in the future no doubt www.206info.co.uk/Foru...nners.html
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:24 pm |
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Thank you for your response.
That thread looks very useful and certainly something worth referring too.
I only jump started it after the battery went dead flat having been sat there for 4 months and not been used once. It was only after jumping did The warning lights come on.
The battery was changed at a Kwikfit not by myself.
I am worried perhaps it was done wrong. I'm concerned I will have to pay out an awful lot to fix it.
What are the best and worse possible scenario's if the battery was removed incorrectly?
Rob.
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:23 pm |
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Worst case scenario is a £600 bill from Peugeot to fix the issue of the BSI.
Best case scenario, and what I would do first would be to have any fault codes cleared and then shut down/reboot the BSI following the correct procedure and hope that the issues you've had are blips as a result of it not being done correctly.
If the car continues to log faults then obviously you would need to address each issue accordingly.
I would also recommend using a garage that has Peugeot Planet (PP2000) code reader instead of generic code reader.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:13 pm |
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Just got a phone call from the garage that has my car, the man said he has tested everything. He does not know why the ABS has failed.
He said the ABS gets very hot when the engine is on.
I asked him if replacing the unit will solve the problem, he said that he could not find anything else it could be.
Tomorrow morning he will be phoning me once he has prices for me before the go ahead.
I sort of joked with him saying "This isn't something that will cost me more than the car is worth is it". He replied with "probably (chuckling)".
He said it could cost between £400-£500. He said he needs to contact the dealership and price it.
Do they really cost that's much?
I'm ever so upset right now.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:45 pm |
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The odd 206 has been known to have issues with the ABS sensors (my old 8v started to).
If the sensors are the issue I don't believe it would be £400-£500 to fix the issue.
The only time it could possibly be close to that quote would be if the ABS ECU needed replacing and even then that could be on the high side as a new unit would only be £250-£300 but I have no idea on how labour intensive the job is.
My own knowledge with ABS system itself is limited at best to be honest but, I would still get it hooked up to PP2000 as I dont believe the generic code readers are able to identify the ABS ECU faults? (dont quote me on that though) & secondly I would get a second quote on repair costs, possibly a second opinion on if it's the ECU itself or just the sensors.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:46 pm |
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Sounds like you have a complete retard on the end of the phone
Let me get this straight, the battery hasnt been replaced? Or has it with a KNOWN proven good one?
What are the fault codes? The ones in every ECU, i advise not to do a single thing till you have this info!
Let me know when you can
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:57 pm |
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No way should you spend £500 on a part for a 206 there are way too many being broken on eBay. What are the faults that you have erased?
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:32 pm |
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I have not asked for the fault codes yet, am I able to retrieve these codes from the garage, seeing as I am already paying him for the diagnostics.
When the original battery went flat it was only then did all the warning lights come up. I jump started the car and took it to Kwikfit. They put in a new battery. (I don't know what brand of battery it is).
Warning lights have not gone since then.
Well this guy at the garage is convinced that the ABS unit itself will need replacing as he is saying the ABS is not communicating with the 206 at all.
I really wish I knew more about what is happening.
He told me he will have prices for me in about 10 hours... I will keep you updated on the prices he gives me. I'm extremely worried about labour prices, are they generally quite expensive?
Rob
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:21 am |
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Im near on sure your car wont be fixed by what he is doing, if want advice we need the fault codes
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:44 am |
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Find out the fault codes or tell him to forget it and bring the car to one of us with Peugeot planet
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:40 am |
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Just phoned me and quoted me at £1125 for a new ABS unit & labour & diagnostics.
I told him I'm picking the car up, paying him for te diagnostics and getting fault codes.
Rob
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:10 am |
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| RobStar wrote: |
| quoted me at £1125 for a new ABS unit & labour & diagnostics |
Holy s**t  that's shocking!
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:11 am |
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That's horrendous! Where abouts are you Rob?
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:35 am |
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At £790 for the hydro block and £500 for the box of tricks, probably isn't a bad quote. Problem is that they are chucking parts at it without knowing what the problem is.
Has the mechanic considered that his machine might not be communicating with the car because it's some sort of generic crap?
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