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 Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:50 pm |
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I'll try and make the story as short as possible..
6 months or so ago, I started noticing a metallic bang from the rear right wheel when driving over pot hols and speed bumps, it was pretty subtle at first but as time went by it began to get louder and louder to a point the whole block can hear it..
Suddenly while driving at curvy roads at normal + speeds, the rear seems to sway, causing me to almost lose control and crash unless I down shift and maneuver the car out of the turn. braking in a situation as this can be extremely dangerous as the nose will drop giving me even less grip in the rear..
about 3 weeks ago I noticed it got allot worse, now getting regularly dim thumps from the same area, including the metallic bang.
Drove to the garage, lifted the car, and saw the right shock absorber came completely loose from it's lower connection.. we pushed it back, thinking IT was the issue all along, but the same noises continued, assuring me the shock absorber wasn't the cause but an effect..
today the shock came loose again.
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* The car basically feels as if the rear has no shocks, I feel every little thing on the road.
* There is a small negative camber in the right wheel.
* The right wheel seems to protrude about 1/2 an inch compared to the left wheel.
* Trying to describe the metallic bang - a metal rod hitting a metal pipe. sometimes the bang will be a double bang, with the second one a little less loud from the first one, but very close to each other.
Could this be a certain metal rod inside the rear axle?
Please guys help a fellow out.. I don't want to spend allot of money on a new axle for nothing, but I also don't want to crash...
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:06 pm |
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It does sound like the axle tbh. Take it to another garage to get it checked over properly
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:12 pm |
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| ukskater01 wrote: |
| It does sound like the axle tbh. Take it to another garage to get it checked over properly |
Forgot to mention, the mechanic did tell me it seems as the axle needs replacing, but he didn't seem 100% sure about it.. I trust you guys more than any mechanic out there.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:25 pm |
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A metallic twang can often be the rear anti roll bar rattling inside the axle. Dodgy handling is likely to be something else!
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:33 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| A metallic twang can often be the rear anti roll bar rattling inside the axle. Dodgy handling is likely to be something else! |
Interesting.. though I'm pretty certain the issues are related to one another.
Can anyone link me to a photo\explanation of how the axle on my xsi looks on the inside? I really think I can better understand what's going on if I'll know whats inside..
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:14 pm |
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It sounds like the trailing arm bearing has started to fail, or could be the rubber bushes that mount axle to the shell have worn. either way sounds like you could do with a recon axle or if you are feeling brave sort them out yourself, they're not expensive on ebay and if you are quite handy with the tools pretty easy to change.
have a look on youtube, plenty of video's showing how to change them.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:14 pm |
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It sounds like the trailing arm bearing has started to fail, or could be the rubber bushes that mount axle to the shell have worn. either way sounds like you could do with a recon axle or if you are feeling brave sort them out yourself, they're not expensive on ebay and if you are quite handy with the tools pretty easy to change.
have a look on youtube, plenty of video's showing how to change them.
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:08 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| A metallic twang can often be the rear anti roll bar rattling inside the axle. Dodgy handling is likely to be something else! |
How to cure this? New arb or regrese
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 3:03 am |
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You cant cure it if its twanging with metal to metal contact its loose which means its beyond repair and will need replacing.
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 5:36 am |
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replacing the knackered bearing, you fill it full of grease before you fit the trailing arm, I did both of my bearing's in day after watching it done on you tube, it's pretty easy to do.
even better if you want to lower it at the same time.
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 6:46 am |
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Trouble is until you get it apart you don't know if the stub axles have been destroyed. Sometimes they don't look too bad but the repair doesn't last. other tiimes they are obviously knackered. If you aren't handy with spanners and don't know someone who is or just want a 100% garaunteed repair the right answer in any of these situations is usually a refurbished and complete axle.
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 8:03 am |
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| omricn wrote: |
| Edward wrote: |
| A metallic twang can often be the rear anti roll bar rattling inside the axle. Dodgy handling is likely to be something else! |
Interesting.. though I'm pretty certain the issues are related to one another.
Can anyone link me to a photo\explanation of how the axle on my xsi looks on the inside? I really think I can better understand what's going on if I'll know whats inside.. |
Look at my project thread. In there somewhere are pictures if the inside of the axle.
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