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vanmanpaul83
PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2015 8:43 am Up
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I'm new to the 206 forum, I joined up because I'm seeking help.

I have a 2002 Peugeot 206 1.6 xsi. I wish to change out my engine mounts as I have reached the conclusion they have had better days . Having unbolted all the aluminium engine mount arm whilst supporting the engine with a jack, I've tried and tried to unscrew the engine mount with a professional oil filter wrench. According to a couple of sources the engine mount is scewed into a fixed thread on the frame. I've removed the engine mount buffers to be able to get the wrench around the mount and used the little space to get some force behind it. All that happens is the wrench slips and I've battered my knuckles. Does anybody have any proper info on this? The gearbox mount is a piece of cake and so is the lower rear engine mount bush. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks

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Edward
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I got mine out using a chain type oil filter tool. It did slip sometimes but I managed to get it to grip. Maybe yours is rusted in place?
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Carlos_WR1
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Im having exactly the same issue at the moment, my top engine mount has split in two on my GTi!!

I have tried an oil filter tool, large screw driver and a hammer. Neither have worked.

I reserved one of these oil filter removers from my local halfords, pick it up tomorrow. Hope it works.

www.halfords.com/motor...-1-2-drive

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vanmanpaul83
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Thanks for replies guys. Carlos I've been searching online and I've come across a different type of filter wrench altogether.

www.halfords.com/motor...er-remover

I may give this type of wrench a shot. Would you keep me informed how you get on with the chain type socket and if successful give me advice on how you did it? Cheers buddy! My hands can't take any more abuse from the cam belt cover Razz

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Carlos_WR1
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vanmanpaul83 wrote:
Thanks for replies guys. Carlos I've been searching online and I've come across a different type of filter wrench altogether.

www.halfords.com/motor...er-remover

I may give this type of wrench a shot. Would you keep me informed how you get on with the chain type socket and if successful give me advice on how you did it? Cheers buddy! My hands can't take any more abuse from the cam belt cover Razz

How did you get on with that oil filter wrench?

Im still having difficulty with mine, i can only manage to get the chain around the rubber part of the mount and its impossible to line up on the metal flange under the rubber bit.

It just wont budge and come undone, i even put a length of tube on the end of my wrench to get extra leverage and still nothing!

Im worried if i apply too much pressure ill cut through the rubber bit with the chain.

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Carlos_WR1
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Well perserverence and a bloody big screw driver and a mallet paid off in the end. Bottom part of the mount is out the car.

Onto the next struggle as the mount was split in half, ive now got to get the top half out the bracket. Its stuck tight, off to Halfords again to get a 34mm impact socket.

I never ever want to have to replace the top engine mount on a 206 gti again!!!

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LeeThr
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The top one's not too bad of a job, in the top of the thread that goes through the rubber dome, there is a torx bit in there which is supposed to be used to undo the mount, but when they've split or seen there best, it's not really any use. Way i've done a few of them is just a bit pry bar or screwdriver on the edges and just wacked it with a big hammer round and round until it comes loose.

The worst part though is when the captive nut underneath breaks it's spot welds from the chassis. That's when the fun really begins. It's a headlight out job and a second pair of hands to hold a 19mm spanner around the nut whilst the other person wacks the life out of the mount to undo it.

 


gogs_macaulay wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
One Hundred million bazillion gatrillion pink rupee's
Shut it u stupid little f**k, what's the point in posting in all my treads being such a c***? Least I can afford a gti180, and to get the cam belt done!

So apparently everyone knows my financial situation? If I wanted a 180 I would have bought a 180 simples Smile

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2003 - 406 Coupé 2.2 HDi SE - Hyperion Blue
2000 - 206 2L HDi D-Turbo ECO - Cherry Red
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1987 - 205 GTi 1.9 - Graphite Gray

I must be mad.....
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Carlos_WR1
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LeeThr

Thats exactly the problem i had, mine had broken completly in half so the torx bit was no use.

I think im also a glutten for punishment as i didnt remopve the ECU, i manage to do it without removing.

Exactly as you said, large mallet and screw driver removed the bottom part, i then had a job removing the broken top half from the mount that bolts to the engin, ive got a large adjustable spanner but as the top cap part sits just inside the mount bracket i couldnt get on it enough to get it undone. A quick dask to halfords to get a 34mm socket got it undone no problems.

The new ones fitted, took it out for a test drive and what a difference, car starts a lot easier now aswell.

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vanmanpaul83
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Carlos _WR1

I bought that wrench and as soon as I got it home I just knew straight away it wouldn't fit so went and got a refund. I have no use for 3 different oil filter wrenches. I've tried the torx bit in the mount and it just shattered a brand new torx bit. I wasn't going to try another. I'm going to have another go with the professional oil filter wrench I have, its not chain type, its the steel band with adjustable handle. It fits around the metal part of mount once I've removed the mount buffers but it slips. My next idea is to put some inner tube rubber round the mount and then put the wrench around. Hopefully it will give it something.to grip. Hopefully weather will be better weekend

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vanmanpaul83
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This is the current filter wrench I'm using www.halfords.com/motor...ver-swivel
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LeeThr
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I just used a pair of mole grips to undo the black plastic captive nut. Soon came off.
 


gogs_macaulay wrote:
LeeThr wrote:
One Hundred million bazillion gatrillion pink rupee's
Shut it u stupid little f**k, what's the point in posting in all my treads being such a c***? Least I can afford a gti180, and to get the cam belt done!

So apparently everyone knows my financial situation? If I wanted a 180 I would have bought a 180 simples Smile

The garage
2003 - 206 GTi 138 - Moonstone Blue
2003 - 406 Coupé 2.2 HDi SE - Hyperion Blue
2000 - 206 2L HDi D-Turbo ECO - Cherry Red
1999 - 306 GTi-6 - Blue (haven't worked out if it's Nile or China yet)
1987 - 205 GTi 1.9 - Graphite Gray

I must be mad.....
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vanmanpaul83
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 11:45 am Up
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I've managed to get the engine mount out without resolving to abrupt force. I put some inner tube rubber around the mount and then slipped the oil filter wrench (the professional steel band type wrench) and got a real good bite on it. I then tapped the wrench with hammer until it freed. Both engine and gear box mounts have been changed. Thanks for your time guys Smile

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