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 Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:51 am |
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Previously, when I have used axle stands, I have only needed to be under the car for 10 mins or less, so I have been naughty and used them on the sills (cue sharp horrified intake of breath).
I am looking at doing something a little more involved, so will be under the car longer, so I was wondering, where do you all put your axle stands (pics would be appreciated)
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:07 am |
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Under rear nut of your lower arm at the front
Under front bolt of your rear axle (but the rear can be done on sills, had mine for a week there - no bends on scrapes, yet stripped the boot and interior)
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:00 am |
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Joined: Dec 26, 2013
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Location: East London
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I used to put the axle stands underneath the subframe at the front. Never needed them for the rear though. Here's a pic of where I'd put mine:
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:49 am |
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Go to B&Q and get some timber. Cut it up to 6"x12" lengths one on top of another and use that. More stable that axle stands and it doesn't concentrate the load on a small area either so less likely to damage anything.
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:52 am |
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All good suggestions, thanks!
I think the subframe is my favourite for general use. Seems the least likely place to be damaged by having load concentrated through it, and I would need a fair bit of wood to keep both sides up...
But the arm location may take it for my next job as I think I will need to get basically where the axle stands would be under the subframe...
Either that or look out for some wheel ramps down the car boot...!
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:00 am |
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You could also get some pieces of wood that you could then make a slot in the middle of. Then place those pieces of wood underneath the jacking points on the sill. This would prevent the sill from bending and also distribute the weight better. Although i'm not sure if its recommended to do so if im honest.
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:23 am |
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I would never get under a car supported by wood unless it was a few inches thick or even a good solid piece of railway sleeper. Wood can split down the grain under pressure, it bends and also compresses.
Stacked wood is very unstable and the car could easily fall off it while you're under it.
Axle stands are perfectly safe to use as long as you put them in the right places. This depends on what you're doing. No point putting one on a suspension mount if you are working on the suspension.
If you don't need to take the wheels off, then ramps are perfectly adequate.
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:39 pm |
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I use stacks of two inch thick timber. Ever thought they build ships on timber. It's very strong if used sensibly.
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:11 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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I'd never use wood to support a car, correctly positioned axle stands every time for me.
After all wooden ships were superseded by steel for good reason.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:11 pm |
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Most of your house is probably held up by wood.....roof, joists, etc spring to mind.
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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:04 pm |
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| qwert wrote: |
| Most of your house is probably held up by wood.....roof, joists, etc spring to mind. |
Most of my house is held up by bricks, the wood supports a few tiles, & I definitely wouldn't trust it to take the weight of a car.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:49 am |
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Your roof will weigh a lot more than a car.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:32 am |
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The roof of a house and the cribs that hold a ship in place are engineered for maximum strength. A pile of 2 inch thick softwood stacked one on top of the other is not the most stable of things.
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 9:17 am |
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I've found them to be more stable and less likely to tip over than an axle stand.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:04 am |
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We use wooden blocks at work to support forklifts & also elevated mast sections.
There company supplied hardwood blocks specially made & certified for this purpose.
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