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 Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2022 5:28 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Any updates?
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:22 pm |
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Updates???
I've bought a spare engine and I've ordered a coil pack plug from the dealer as I want to order a custom race spec loom from Omex. Once i have that connector i want to finally find out how to make the Omex tacho output work the Peugeot rev counter.
When I know the answer to that I will order the lovely loom from Omex.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:28 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Trade Rating: +5
Location: In the garage
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 9:32 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Well I meant updates as in have you done anything! What’s the plans with the engine?
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:33 pm |
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I can't really move on until I get that coil pack connector. They are on back order and have been for a few weeks.
When the new loom is done it will look much smarter and everything will be hidden away more.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:19 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Suffolk
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Did you manage to get your rev counter working? I stupidly run an omex 710 for no other reason than wanting a headache when ever I use MAP4000.
I've managed to get mine working but I haven't the foggiest what I did, I have a suspicion it was relatively simple, just a bit of wiring digging for the cluster (yours is preplex too from memory?)
Also what connector do you need? The coilpack one for the 138? May be able to source one if you need.
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:33 pm |
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My rev counter has always worked, I just don't like the way both the Omex and original ECU are connected and share the crank sensor.
I'm trying to get hold of a new coil pack plug. I've got a spare plug on a loom but it's not obvious how to take it apart to reuse it with new terminals. The dealer has the terminals but the rest hasn't turned up yet.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:48 pm |
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The terminals are just junior power timers, nout special and easy to remove with the right tool. You shouldn't need to share a crank signal. On preplex there is no real need for the original ecu as the omex/original sensors will do everything you need.
You need to run both if the can network has not been sorted on the standalone for any mux car.
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:35 am |
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If anybody ever wants to de-pin one of these coil pack plugs you need a 2 pin tool. Each terminal is held in with 2 barbs which need pushing back at the same time.
So i now have a plug from the used engine and some new terminals from the local Citroen dealer. So I can now get on with ordering the custom race loom from Omex.
I'll also order a new lambda sensor and throttle position sensor to go with the new loom.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon May 15, 2023 7:34 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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If I was you mate and you had the funds, I'd ditch the omex and get nicer ecu that's up to date and a bit more user friendly!
I've got an omex 710 and detest every second of working with its annoyingly clunky interface, the turbo conversion kit for the 180's I do run SCS delta 700 and it's so much nicer to work with.
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:23 pm |
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Next little job. I've noticed some parts are no longer available for the 206 from the Peugeot dealer anymore. This includes the hydraulic clutch hose. Mine wasn't in bad condition but I'm sure one day it would need replacing which would be difficult if spares weren't available. #
I noticed Beignat Competition in France did adaptors to fit the standard master cylinder and slave cylinder. So while these adaptors are still available I decided to convert my rubber and metal hose to a -4 JIC fitting using Goodridge 600 hose and fittings from Merlin Motorsport.
Total cost is about £160.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 5:53 pm |
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Treated the car to a new loom. Always wanted to tidy the wiring and this one does the job. It's a bespoke race loom from Omex and was over £700.
I decided to fit a new lambda sensor too as the original is over 20 years old. The mild steel lambda boss in the stainless manifold didn't want to cooperate though so the subframe had to come off to get the manifold off. So I've ordered a lambda boss thread chaser which will hopefully clean up the threads to allow the new sensor to be fitted.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 11:20 am |
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Joined: Jun 20, 2012
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As always, clean as a whistle!
Thanks for pointing out how to refresh brake fluid hydraulics. Didn't like when bleeding brakes I pressurised the reservoir (2bar as PP2000 said) on our CC, and before too long it started to leak from here:
Nothing leaks under normal operation, but such tests sure point out the weak links!
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2024 7:51 pm |
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Next job. As I wanted a totally standalone loom this meant the original tacho couldn't be connected to the original crank sensor. The only way to get this to work was to fit an aftermarket tacho.
Ideally the old tacho could be removed and a new one fitted but as the clocks are all built around a printed circuit board there's no way I'm hacking it apart.
So this is the next best thing. Stack ST200 sat in a pod. It blocks the view of the temperature gauge but I can live with that.
That's another £400 spent!
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:06 pm |
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More money spent, the rear dampers were 20 years old, so for no other reason than them not looking particularly smart anymore I decided to replace them.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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