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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:52 pm |
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hi just wanted to no wood a 1.4 8v engine go in my 1.1 8v 02 206 ? with no messin about just i st8 bot in and plug in ?
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curt
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:12 pm |
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it would but you won't really feel the difference
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:13 pm |
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Waste of time, 1.1s are probably about the same speed till bwt 70, or uphill lol
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:43 pm |
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Joined: Mar 23, 2010 Posts: 247
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why are you wanting to put 1.4 in ,what you hoping for?.
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:54 pm |
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straight swap but you are looking at 250 in labour to swap it. possibly more. fair enough if the engine needs doing anyway though
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Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:15 pm |
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go for 1.6,mine is 1.4,thinking of doing it 1.6 8V :),just waiting for the right car to come to scrapy ![Very Happy Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:30 am |
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The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.
Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel
1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however.
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Last edited by MEGA on Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:23 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:39 am |
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I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,
Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1 ![Laughing Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif)
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:02 am |
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NorthantsBen wrote: |
I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,
Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1 ![Laughing Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
Power to weight is very important with small cars. Additional passengers or a boot full of ICE will make a massive difference ![Smile Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:03 am |
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I've done a 1.4 8V to 1.6 16V conversion.
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:12 am |
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Congrats ![Smile Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:30 am |
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NorthantsBen wrote: |
I could tell quite a bit of diffrence when driving my Mates OLDER 1.1 then getting In my 1.4,
Tho my 1.4 had trouble keeping up with jarreds (pugjh) NEWER 1.1 ![Laughing Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
think the older ones only have single point injection thats why. unless thats just on the saxo engines
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:34 am |
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MEGA wrote: |
The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.
Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel
1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however. |
Wouldnt you get all that with a donor engine and box anyway?
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:39 am |
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Big_Rich180 wrote: |
MEGA wrote: |
The 1.1 or 1.4 -> 1.6 mod requires a few more things.
Exhaust Manifold from a 1.6 as the oil filter is in a different place
Injectors
Intake manifold as it is a different bore width
Custom induction or the induction from 1.6
The clutch is different.. You could use your 1.1 clutch, it is bolt pattern compatible - but it isn't designed for the abuse. I'd recommend getting a 1.6 clutch/flywheel
1.1 -> 1.4 is pretty simple however. |
Wouldnt you get all that with a donor engine and box anyway? |
most scrap yards sell the block on its own without the gearbox. if you could get a decent clutch for the 1.1 i would stick with the gearbox as the gear ratios are bound to be shorter.
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:43 am |
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Buy my 1.6 engine (s)?
Alot faster than any 1.4 ![Wink Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif)
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