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 Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:16 pm |
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didn't see your car at RST, when did you go there?
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:34 pm |
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Location: Stafford
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| gti180boy wrote: |
she is now and then with a new lightern flywheel  |
Photo and info about flywheel please.  Is it lightened stock one or pug1off brand new cnc machined one. |
As you may know the gti 180 has a lightern flywheel standed compared to the gti 138 but still heavry.
Yes i will be buying a pug1off one as they alot lighter and iv seen a lightern flywheel on a 180 and revs like hell and i like it.
Iv spoken to couple people whos get them on there 206 rc's and they said dont lose power or torque at all just revs faster and get moving quicker and more responceive which am interested
here a vid to a 206 rc which lightern flywheel and cams and remap and exhaust and induction kit
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxFaA7Ic9kU
Kyle
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:37 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Essex
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| Did you connect wideband on your exhaust pipe directly for AFR log. And why your AFR line isnt smooth. And I think 12 AFR is to much for N/A engine. As you can see when you going far from 13-13.5 AFR you are losing power. You have to fix you AFR 13-13.5 on full throttle. |
The best AFR is 14.7... I had this issue with Atspeed recently who think an AFR of 12 is optimum and say my fuel map is all wrong when it is between 14.2 and 14.9.... I gave them the chance to map it themselves but I ended up loading my original map back on after 3 hrs as they couldnt get the engine to run on theirs 
Dont expect the lighter flywheel to make a difference to a RR graph Kyle 
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:04 pm |
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Joined: May 31, 2010
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Location: northumberland
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| gti180boy wrote: |
Hi chris am happy that you are happy good gain 16bhp and even running standed air system just panel filter. if you put a k@n typhoon on her i bet you hit around 185bhp easy.
And you need janspeed exhaust on her aswell
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Yeah I'd love to get a janspeed on but as you pointed out, the tool that fitted my powerflow exhaust has cut the flanges off my cat
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| didn't see your car at RST, when did you go there? |
I was there on monday (4th July) from 1 oclock to around about half 2.
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| Schumi wrote: |
| Did you connect wideband on your exhaust pipe directly for AFR log. And why your AFR line isnt smooth. And I think 12 AFR is to much for N/A engine. As you can see when you going far from 13-13.5 AFR you are losing power. You have to fix you AFR 13-13.5 on full throttle. |
The best AFR is 14.7... I had this issue with Atspeed recently who think an AFR of 12 is optimum and say my fuel map is all wrong when it is between 14.2 and 14.9.... I gave them the chance to map it themselves but I ended up loading my original map back on after 3 hrs as they couldnt get the engine to run on theirs
Dont expect the lighter flywheel to make a difference to a RR graph Kyle |
Not a lot of this makes sense to me I just thought it would be good to post up the air fuel ratio graphs for you lot that understand these things! if anyone would like to explain feel free!
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:55 pm |
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| macj wrote: |
Dont expect the lighter flywheel to make a difference to a RR graph Kyle |
I know it wont really but i be interested to see if any thing changes.
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:03 pm |
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nice one chirs im happy for ya....... i got mine back today, shes a little dream..... we didn't get get down to RST because it was a new car with the cam in..... the bloke that did the old map came down and had a look and tweak and thought there was no need..... so im guessing im still running around 185 if not a little more from the exhaust.... however i no people say no no no no no but i say WHY NOT!!! im buying a decat! it works for every other car and i was speaking to matt at pug1off and there is no reason why should see gains all this back pressure stuff is a load of crap apparently.... and seen as no one has tried im actually going to stick it on the rollers before and after.
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:08 pm |
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And you could get a janspeed but you will have to take it to a custom exhaust place and get the to themto fit it becuase they have cut your exhaust and welded a different end on it to the standed one
So not end of the world just more time and money thanks to rogue traders and the exhaust you have now i dont think its really doing much really and to loud in my eyes
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:12 pm |
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Location: Stafford
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| kingdom200 wrote: |
| nice one chirs im happy for ya....... i got mine back today, shes a little dream..... we didn't get get down to RST because it was a new car with the cam in..... the bloke that did the old map came down and had a look and tweak and thought there was no need..... so im guessing im still running around 185 if not a little more from the exhaust.... however i no people say no no no no no but i say WHY NOT!!! im buying a decat! it works for every other car and i was speaking to matt at pug1off and there is no reason why should see gains all this back pressure stuff is a load of crap apparently.... and seen as no one has tried im actually going to stick it on the rollers before and after. |
I agree really.
Dom am gona put the pug1off lightern flywheel in mine have you thight about doing this??
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:27 pm |
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i dont really want to spend any more money Kyle i think im going to put the money in the bank for bigger and better, i would say i have lost interest but i would be lying lol i just dont want to throw any more money away lol
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:40 pm |
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| kingdom200 wrote: |
| i dont really want to spend any more money Kyle i think im going to put the money in the bank for bigger and better, i would say i have lost interest but i would be lying lol i just dont want to throw any more money away lol |
Every one to there own i feel the same way some times about mine but the again i think well i be keeping the car for at while so spend away lol and have fun while i can.
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:41 pm |
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Joined: May 31, 2010
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| gti180boy wrote: |
And you could get a janspeed but you will have to take it to a custom exhaust place and get the to themto fit it becuase they have cut your exhaust and welded a different end on it to the standed one
So not end of the world just more time and money thanks to rogue traders and the exhaust you have now i dont think its really doing much really and to loud in my eyes |
yeah i really want the exhaust changed to a performance one like the janspeed but it's all about money at the minute,
glad your happy dom...let me know how the decat works...i think bigrich180 has fitted one before and then removed it as he thought it was crap, you should ask him
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:49 pm |
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yeh i spoke to rich but his comparison was on a dyno against another 180 with the same mods without the decat and ran 1bhp more and had less torque but u cant compare like that at all yours ran 161bhp and mine ran 171bhp and we basically had the same mods so it makes no difference, i think this decat is going to work, it works for every other car and my theory is, if the 180 has a sports cat then back pressure is bulshit if it can cope with a sports cat it can cope with no cat...... there's a bloke from south africa who has one and he has great power, JE_180 has a sports cat and he thinks it mint! so yeh i think it should work and im going for it despite the massive crowed (who has never tryed it) says
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:55 pm |
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| yeh i spoke to rich but his comparison was on a dyno against another 180 with the same mods without the decat and ran 1bhp more and had less torque but u cant compare like that at all yours ran 161bhp and mine ran 171bhp and we basically had the same mods so it makes no difference, i think this decat is going to work, it works for every other car and my theory is, if the 180 has a sports cat then back pressure is bulshit if it can cope with a sports cat it can cope with no cat...... there's a bloke from south africa who has one and he has great power, JE_180 has a sports cat and he thinks it mint! so yeh i think it should work and im going for it despite the massive crowed (who has never tryed it) says |
Yeah if you wont it go for it as its your car.
but yeah chris tuning the bloody 180's does costs alot money lol
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:02 pm |
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| gti180boy wrote: |
| kingdom200 wrote: |
| yeh i spoke to rich but his comparison was on a dyno against another 180 with the same mods without the decat and ran 1bhp more and had less torque but u cant compare like that at all yours ran 161bhp and mine ran 171bhp and we basically had the same mods so it makes no difference, i think this decat is going to work, it works for every other car and my theory is, if the 180 has a sports cat then back pressure is bulshit if it can cope with a sports cat it can cope with no cat...... there's a bloke from south africa who has one and he has great power, JE_180 has a sports cat and he thinks it mint! so yeh i think it should work and im going for it despite the massive crowed (who has never tryed it) says |
Yeah if you wont it go for it as its your car.
but yeah chris tuning the bloody 180's does cast alot money lol |
its all good fun though
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:04 pm |
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and a bloody head ace lol
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