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 Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 2:45 pm |
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First question, how do you know if the axle/bearing housing is past it and would be no good even if new bearings were fitted?
secondly, even if its beyond repair, i will fit new bearings and bushes to the new axle i buy so....does anyone have a parts list of the bushes and bearings i would need?
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:15 pm |
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I am working on a set of phosphur bronze bushes to replace the needle roller ones.... they would be used where the rollers have worn ridges in the beam and it would mean you would not need to replace the whole thing..... will be getting the prototype from the engineer at the weekend. Are you interested
Mac
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:23 pm |
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once the trailing arm is off then the answer is there. if the bearing give deep mark on the axle tube then it's gone.
you need one outer and one inner bearing for each trailing arm. depends on the year they have different parts number.
same as the axle bush (2 front, 2 rear)
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:25 pm |
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hmm tricky one, i'd be interested in the spec if it works as I would have our machinists fabricate them. although I can't understand why the bearing packing in would affect it, does the roller bearing not have an inner and outer race?
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:25 pm |
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| macj wrote: |
I am working on a set of phosphur bronze bushes to replace the needle roller ones.... they would be used where the rollers have worn ridges in the beam and it would mean you would not need to replace the whole thing..... will be getting the prototype from the engineer at the weekend. Are you interested
Mac |
count me in macj 
i am working on my disc axle too
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:29 pm |
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apologies, mental bearing block, no outer race. makes sense now
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:38 pm |
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Thats so cool that you could start supplying these if their is a demand but its also the work involved that i would be able to do.
I don't even change my brake pads (i don't trust myself with safety stuff) Better safe than sorry.
But the axle is just too much for the average 
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:44 pm |
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not too much of an issue for me, got an old school mechanic living 300 yards from me who is always game for a challenge. the sleeving route does seem a good one however I think if it comes to proper axle work I will fit new bearings and bushes to another axle that isn't knackered then refurb the original to sell on.
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 3:52 pm |
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I have seazed torsion arms and a knackerd bearing so bought a GTi axle, Just still have to fit it. One the 1.4 axle is off may try to unseize it, take it apart and maybe refurbe and sell it.
We'll see. Nice bit of thinking though guys, be nice to see this work andsave everyone a few £100.  :)
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:38 pm |
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If i bought a non gti axle, could i transfer over the gti bits and make a good one or would it be the gti specific bits that would be knackered from the worn our bearings?
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:49 pm |
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yes, the only difference is the thickness of the torsion bar and anti-roll bar.
and you can just knock them out and swap them around.
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:00 pm |
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So i could use the trailing arms off a drum axle to get around the bearing damage?
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:03 pm |
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| D4NTP wrote: |
| So i could use the trailing arms off a drum axle to get around the bearing damage? |
is the other way round
you can get the drum axle and swap the gti trailing arm.
normally is the axle beam get damage first, if you ignore it then it started to damage the trailing arms. but i am pretty sure before the trailing arm get damage you will fail your mot first
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:06 pm |
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So, get a drum axle cheap, re bush and bearing it, put my trailing arms, anti roll bar and torsion bar on it and as if by magic i have a good gti axle again?
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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:16 pm |
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yes...provided the drum axle is good.
and i don't know how much you can save btw. normally you can get a recond. axle from 370 to 500 with 1yr warrantly.
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