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 Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:36 am |
 
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You'll have to bear with me here - I'm not too good with the mechanical side of things. Basically, how hard is it to fit new brake shoes to my 2003 1.4 8v GLX?
1. Will I be able to do it? (I'm reasonably mechanically minded and willing to give things a go)
2. What tools will I need?
3. What Parts will I need?
4. What is likely to go wrong?
5. Is there anything else worth replacing while I'm at it?
Thanks in advance
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:04 am |
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The biggest issue is taking off the large hub nut so you can take the drums off .. you'll need a breaker bar and a largish socket, and a torque wrench when putting it back or you could screw the bearing ..
There is a chance the bearing will fall apart when you take the drum off, but it wasn't that hard when I did our HDi's some years back.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:46 am |
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Thanks for the reply. I'll get the wheel off and have a look at the situation. If in doubt I guess I'll take it to the garage and get it done.
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206 Urban 1.4 8v 3dr '56 - China Blue - 70k Miles - Climate control retrofit, cruise control retrofit - Dead (Breaking)
206 GLX 1.4 8v 3dr '03 - 100k Miles - Obsidian Black - Black masked headlights + front fogs, Faster sunroof, Colour matched exterior trim - SOLD
206 2.0 GTI 138 '03 - 58k Miles - Onyx Black - 17" 180 Alloys - Current
206 2.0 GTi 138 '03 - 120k Miles - China Blue - New Track Toy (ON THE WAY) | |
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:29 am |
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You bought a Haynes manual? It's pretty well explained in there.
The nut is v tight 200Nm or 148 ft/lb ..and the hub nuts should only be used once!
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:22 am |
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| gazza82 wrote: |
The nut is v tight 200Nm or 148 ft/lb ..and the hub nuts should only be used once! |
Plus its a staked nut so needs removing correctly to avoid damage to the threads on the stub axle.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:12 pm |
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| FrankAteMyName wrote: |
1. Will I be able to do it? (I'm reasonably mechanically minded and willing to give things a go)
2. What tools will I need?
3. What Parts will I need?
4. What is likely to go wrong?
5. Is there anything else worth replacing while I'm at it? |
1. It's fairly easy to do once you have the drum off. Do one side at a time, and take a picture before removing the springs or shoes so that you know how everything goes back together. Don't let anyone touch the brake pedal while the shoes are off. Make sure you note how the auto adjusters are connected and adjust them properly before putting the hub nut back on
2. As said socket for hub nut, breaker bar, torque wrench, plus pliers (bull nose and long nose) and possibly a flat screwdriver. Hammer (to persuade the drums to move past the shoes when taking off) Course sandpaper to rough up the inside of the drum
3. Brake shoes obviously. Lucas or Bosch? You'll have to check on what's fitted. Brake cleaner, copper grease.
4. You put it back together wrong, you have a fluid leak from the cylinder, the drum has a severe lip on it and needs replacing.
5. You could by a new spring kit. Auto adjusters could be shot.
If unsure about doing the job, then get a professional to do it. If it goes wrong it can prove expensive having bodywork replaced.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:22 pm |
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If you find any fluid leakage from the slave cylinders then they need to be replaced before you carry on with the job.
Dont be tempted to fit the new shoes as once they are contaminated with brake fluid there fit for only one thing, the BIN.
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:53 pm |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| Dont be tempted to fit the new shoes as once they are contaminated with brake fluid there fit for only one thing, the BIN. |
Paint thinner and a match used to do the job, but it was a back street garage owned by a cowboy. Fortunately he got shut down when it was discovered he was clocking cars for a relatives forecourt. I always thought he disappeared into the spraybooth for a couple of hours to repair paint, not to take the dash to bits
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Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:57 pm |
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Clocking is even easier now with electronic dashboards.
I remember the old Austin Rover mechanical ones, having to take the cluster apart to pop the little C clip off the rod so you could tamper with the numbers & make it look ok.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:07 am |
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Maybe I should finally invest in a Haynes manual. I'll have a look in there but based on your replies I reckon I might have a stab at it. Also, the car's done 93k miles. I don't know if there's anything in particular to take into consideration?
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| My cars:
206 Urban 1.4 8v 3dr '56 - China Blue - 70k Miles - Climate control retrofit, cruise control retrofit - Dead (Breaking)
206 GLX 1.4 8v 3dr '03 - 100k Miles - Obsidian Black - Black masked headlights + front fogs, Faster sunroof, Colour matched exterior trim - SOLD
206 2.0 GTI 138 '03 - 58k Miles - Onyx Black - 17" 180 Alloys - Current
206 2.0 GTi 138 '03 - 120k Miles - China Blue - New Track Toy (ON THE WAY) | |
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:34 am |
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Carefully check the brake slave cylinders for leakage.
The cylinder seals do get tired as they age.
The cylinders are cheap enough to replace if needed.
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:49 am |
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Considering brakes are a safety item, is it wise to start with these? It might be best to ask a local mechanic to fit them ... don't use Kwakfit ..
Also if the car is regularly needed, bear in mind you might not have it for a few days if the pistons are leaking and you need to find them and if you run into problems ..
If you have to touch the cylinders you then need to bleed the brakes ... and you need more tools ..
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:26 am |
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As it happens a friend of a friend owns a garage that 'specialises' in French cars. I am going to ask very nicely if he could teach me while he does it. Hopefully he won't turn down a couple extra beer tokens
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| My cars:
206 Urban 1.4 8v 3dr '56 - China Blue - 70k Miles - Climate control retrofit, cruise control retrofit - Dead (Breaking)
206 GLX 1.4 8v 3dr '03 - 100k Miles - Obsidian Black - Black masked headlights + front fogs, Faster sunroof, Colour matched exterior trim - SOLD
206 2.0 GTI 138 '03 - 58k Miles - Onyx Black - 17" 180 Alloys - Current
206 2.0 GTi 138 '03 - 120k Miles - China Blue - New Track Toy (ON THE WAY) | |
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Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:04 am |
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good move ...
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