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 Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 7:10 pm |
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Location: Athens, Greece
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I have to completely stop to select 1st. And I mean completely.
No, matching the revs makes no difference either. I've read from others the same.
However browsing the Hayne's the other day, it says "synchromesh in all forward gears" to my utter disgust.
What's happening?
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:14 pm |
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Is this really a problem? As I wouldn't & can't see why anyone with any mechanical sympathy would select first unless stationary anyway!
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:36 pm |
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I occasionally select first when rolling to a stop at, for instance, a set of lights I know will be changing to green very soon, but know I'll be stopping before they change.
I can definitely change to first without stopping, with no problems, don't do it often though, and never release the clutch unless I've fully stopped, otherwise I'd be changing back up a gear first.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 2:16 am |
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Joined: Feb 18, 2010
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First gear? What's that? 
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:10 am |
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I do, when sometimes your are too slow for second but not stopped completely. If it were a problem, just remember to go in second would be annoying but doubt it would be a massive problem.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:24 am |
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Location: Athens, Greece
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| E5GDM wrote: |
| Is this really a problem? As I wouldn't & can't see why anyone with any mechanical sympathy would select first unless stationary anyway! |
Are you saying I'm a cr@p driver?!
Seriously though it IS needed and just wondering if others have it.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:33 am |
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i too have this problem. many a times i will be in a situation where my car is too slow for gear 2 and trying to accelerate on gear 2 just drags the engine. going to 1 is impossible unless i come to a complete stop. i think its a problem with our gear box? i think if my speed is like less than 30km/h, gear 2 is not appropriate and i would be dragging it. 
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:44 pm |
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I still say I wouldn't want to be ramming my car into 1st gear while still moving, let alone at nearly 30kmh! I'd rather plan ahead & be in the right gear, or if I was desperate to accelerate faster, I'd slip the clutch momenteretly till my speed increased.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:52 pm |
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| E5GDM wrote: |
| I still say I wouldn't want to be ramming my car into 1st gear while still moving, let alone at nearly 30kmh! I'd rather plan ahead & be in the right gear, or if I was desperate to accelerate faster, I'd slip the clutch momenteretly till my speed increased. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:17 pm |
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| E5GDM wrote: |
| I still say I wouldn't want to be ramming my car into 1st gear while still moving, let alone at nearly 30kmh! I'd rather plan ahead & be in the right gear, or if I was desperate to accelerate faster, I'd slip the clutch momenteretly till my speed increased. |
So you're following a lorry or slow moving vehicle up a really steep hill and second gear is making the engine labour, most people would select first on the move rather than stop and be called a @*$ by those following.
V9977 only asked a reasonable question 
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:22 pm |
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i have no problem when downshifting to 1st gear if i match the revs. anything high than 15mph 2nd is the only way.
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:40 pm |
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Location: Athens, Greece
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| Seabook wrote: |
| i have no problem when downshifting to 1st gear if i match the revs. anything high than 15mph 2nd is the only way. |
| V9977 wrote: |
I have to completely stop to select 1st. And I mean completely.
No, matching the revs makes no difference either. I've read from others the same.
However browsing the Hayne's the other day, it says "synchromesh in all forward gears" to my utter disgust.
What's happening? |
| E5GDM wrote: |
| I still say I wouldn't want to be ramming my car into 1st gear while still moving, let alone at nearly 30kmh! I'd rather plan ahead & be in the right gear, or if I was desperate to accelerate faster, I'd slip the clutch momenteretly till my speed increased. |
Yes, I bet the 180 picks up quite nicely, but why don't you come have a go in my 1.4i and then tell us all how to drive.
P.S. 20 years on the wheel here. 
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:43 pm |
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i too have this problem  i want to be able to go into first when cuming to a junction, ive alwasy been able to do it and now i cant after having new clutch fitted, Would this be the start of a problem with the gear box??
thank you in advance
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:56 pm |
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You shouldn't be able to get the car into first when rolling at anything much more than 1mph. It's completely normal.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:04 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| You shouldn't be able to get the car into first when rolling at anything much more than 1mph. It's completely normal. |
Mine will go into first up to about 5-8mph but anything higher and there is no chance :/
Ben.M
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