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Coilovers or spring, uprating mine, help
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Seabook
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:26 am Up
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to be fair, if you go for coilover at least go for bilstein B14
 
 

 

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:29 am Up
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JE_180 wrote:
I have heard that spax are a hard setup though, I kind of like a firm suspension setup if I'm honest, if it's soft it doesn't make me think it's sporty and would handle well.

it is easy to setup the suspension to have "hard" ride without changing the spring Laughing

 
 

 

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:30 am Up
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Okay to be fair my shocks are on the hardest setting and the coilovers on the front are wound down almost max i should be expecting a solid ride.
"BREAKING THE MOULD" - Something that should be done more often.

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Seabook wrote:
to be fair, if you go for coilover at least go for bilstein B14

B14's are way overpriced. Anything from KW/Weitec/AP are supposed to be very good, the only ones I've tried out of those are KW's and I was very impressed.

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I suppose the word i was looking for is 'firm'
so not solid or soft. Just the right tightness Smile

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lmao. I have a dirty mind...
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JE_180 wrote:
lmao. I have a dirty mind...

tbh i thought the same when writing it so its all good :D.

can't beat a bit of firm bounce, each to there own tho if callum likes a rock hard ride Wink

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You guys do know that it's the springs that affect the ride, you can probably get softer springs if you really want....
Don't argue the opinions of idiots.
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Seb wrote:
You guys do know that it's the springs that affect the ride, you can probably get softer springs if you really want....

What do you mean by softer springs ?

"BREAKING THE MOULD" - Something that should be done more often.

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PugJH wrote:
JE_180 wrote:
lmao. I have a dirty mind...

tbh i thought the same when writing it so its all good :D.

can't beat a bit of firm bounce, each to there own tho if callum likes a rock hard ride Wink

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"BREAKING THE MOULD" - Something that should be done more often.

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Callum206 wrote:
Seb wrote:
You guys do know that it's the springs that affect the ride, you can probably get softer springs if you really want....

What do you mean by softer springs ?

Eibach ones lol Smile

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Callum206 wrote:
Seb wrote:
You guys do know that it's the springs that affect the ride, you can probably get softer springs if you really want....

What do you mean by softer springs ?

It's the spring that denotes how stiff the ride itself is for the most part, the dampers really only come into play when they're being properly compressed.

Springs are measured by poundage, for example I have 425 fitted on the front of my car and 475 on the rear, fitting a lower poundage spring will give you a softer ride. It's how much is required to compress the spring by 1 inch.

So a 100lb spring will require 100lbs to compress it by an inch, a 400lb spring, will require, surprise surprise, 400lbs to compress it one inch! Hence why lower poundage springs are softer as they compress much easier.

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Seb wrote:
Callum206 wrote:
Seb wrote:
You guys do know that it's the springs that affect the ride, you can probably get softer springs if you really want....

What do you mean by softer springs ?

It's the spring that denotes how stiff the ride itself is for the most part, the dampers really only come into play when they're being properly compressed.

Springs are measured by poundage, for example I have 425 fitted on the front of my car and 475 on the rear, fitting a lower poundage spring will give you a softer ride. It's how much is required to compress the spring by 1 inch.

So a 100lb spring will require 100lbs to compress it by an inch, a 400lb spring, will require, surprise surprise, 400lbs to compress it one inch! Hence why lower poundage springs are softer as they compress much easier.

this is true.

however a weak spring with a hard damper will give you a very stiff ride too.

 
 

 

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JE_180 wrote:
Seabook wrote:
to be fair, if you go for coilover at least go for bilstein B14

B14's are way overpriced. Anything from KW/Weitec/AP are supposed to be very good, the only ones I've tried out of those are KW's and I was very impressed.
Confused

KW Variant 1 are same price or slightly higher than B14....

 
 

 

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