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Wow it's been a while since I've had to post in the problems section lol!
But hey ho here we are again, oh how I've missed you '206 Problems' NAWTTTTTTTT!
Anyway, just wondering if anyone can help me and my wee puggy, for about 3-4 weeks now, everytime I've released my handbrake there has been a strange sqeak noise, and when I say everytime I liturally mean everytime, unless I take the handbrake off sloooowwwwwwllllllyyyyyy, which is boring and gay.
Recently it's also been happening when I also release the foot brake, not so often, but on occasion.
I've been under the car and with the help of a helper moving the handbrake up and down I've tried to locate the nosie, but the most I can say is it's in the middle to rear area of the car and not specificly louder at either side.
I've lifted the handbrake cover off the inside, had a poke around, and the noise is definatly from the underside of the car.
I did think it could just be part of the cable squeeking as it moves but would it still do that if I was using the foot brake too?! (Might be a dumb question but idk?) I'd assume the handbrake cable was seperate from the footbrake's workings.
Another thing that came into my head was could it be the return springs that pull the pads back away from the drum? But then the noise *sounds* like it's coming more from the middle of the car and not a specific drum..
Any thoughts or help much appriciated!
Sorry for the long post but the more information the better diagnostic and all that
P.S. Other than the noise it's causing no other effects on the car stopping or holding itself in place, it's just hella annoying!
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Peugeot 206 1.1 Zest 3 '05 Plate - Project Car
BMW E46 320CD MSport '54 Plate - The Toy
Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi GTi '06 Plate - O/H's Car
Lee
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:51 am
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Handbrake is cable and foot brake is fluid mate
Does the brake pedal noise come from the same place or the actual pedal itself?
MrrNoName
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:57 am
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like you said it will probs be that the pad isnt fully detatching from the drum when you release it, its almost impossible to find out where those squeels are comming from so it could be from either side. when you pull away for a few seconds the shoe is still slightly rubbing
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Ste
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:57 am
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Thought that Lee, hence - I'd assume the handbrake cable was seperate from the footbrake's workings.
Comes from the exact same place mate, and obviously doesnt do it when the handbrake is on, which leans me more towards the return springs, as the pads will already be pushed into the contact posiiton?
But then it doesnt do it as often with the foot brake? I'm a confused cookie!
The Cars:
VW Golf Mk7 1.6 Derv '13 Plate - The Daily
Peugeot 206 1.1 Zest 3 '05 Plate - Project Car
BMW E46 320CD MSport '54 Plate - The Toy
Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi GTi '06 Plate - O/H's Car
Ste
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:58 am
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MrrNoName wrote:
like you said it will probs be that the pad isnt fully detatching from the drum when you release it, its almost impossible to find out where those squeels are comming from, so when you pull away for a few seconds the shoe is still slightly rubbing
Nope, it's not that, it does it at a standstill.. As in, It's currently sat on the drive, wheels chocked so it cant move anywhere at all, everytime you release the handbrake it squeeks..
I'll go gets a video-ma-bob, might make it easier for people to help me then too
The Cars:
VW Golf Mk7 1.6 Derv '13 Plate - The Daily
Peugeot 206 1.1 Zest 3 '05 Plate - Project Car
BMW E46 320CD MSport '54 Plate - The Toy
Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi GTi '06 Plate - O/H's Car
Ste
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:08 pm
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Warning: DONT WATCH THIS AT WORK WITH SPEAKERS, People may think your watching some Blue haha!
The Cars:
VW Golf Mk7 1.6 Derv '13 Plate - The Daily
Peugeot 206 1.1 Zest 3 '05 Plate - Project Car
BMW E46 320CD MSport '54 Plate - The Toy
Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi GTi '06 Plate - O/H's Car
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Ste
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:13 pm
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Also from inside the car and under the middle
The Cars:
VW Golf Mk7 1.6 Derv '13 Plate - The Daily
Peugeot 206 1.1 Zest 3 '05 Plate - Project Car
BMW E46 320CD MSport '54 Plate - The Toy
Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi GTi '06 Plate - O/H's Car
Lee
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:16 pm
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Can't you manually put the handbrake on and off on each wheel like you can with a disc brake one? Where the end of the cable joins the brake. If you manually do it then you'll be able to see which brake its coming from
Lee
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:17 pm
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Dude never make a porno, you have suck shaky hands
Ste
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:23 pm
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Lee wrote:
Can't you manually put the handbrake on and off on each wheel like you can with a disc brake one? Where the end of the cable joins the brake. If you manually do it then you'll be able to see which brake its coming from
I'll have a check tomorrow
If it's the springs that pull the shoes back would it be a replace jobby?
Lee wrote:
Dude never make a porno, you have suck shaky hands
Oh you thought the squeek was from the brakes? Where'd you think my other hand was lols...
The Cars:
VW Golf Mk7 1.6 Derv '13 Plate - The Daily
Peugeot 206 1.1 Zest 3 '05 Plate - Project Car
BMW E46 320CD MSport '54 Plate - The Toy
Peugeot 206 1.6 HDi GTi '06 Plate - O/H's Car
Lee
Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 12:37 pm
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They are pretty easy to change I think. Just make sure you follow the right guide for Bosch or Lucas as they are different layouts
I did my rear shoes a couple of weeks ago, piece of ..... if you have even the slightest mechanical knowledge.
Buy new hub nuts though as they shouldn't be used twice.
You can buy a spring kit but might just be the pivot point where the handbrake moves on the shoes.
Nearside
These might help if you get stuck. Mine are Bosch drums and shoes.
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