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 Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:19 am |
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Location: Teesside
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Start car from cold and engine idles fine, try and give the engine a bit of a rev and it coughs and splutters and tries to stall...
Will continue to do this untill engine is warm... bit of a smell of petrol in the air tho. When warm, car seems under powered and sounds rough.
its been in the pug garage and no faults on the diagnostic machine... help..!
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:45 am |
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Hmm, no faults coming up?
Pretty sure I've read on here that problems with either the VVT solenoid or coilpack don't always through up faults?
VVT solenoid is around £80 from Peugeot, and the coilpack is around £120 IIRC.
Another common fault - what plugs are you using? NGK do not go well with Peugeot coilpacks!!
Hopefully others will advise of other, cheaper ways to fix your problem.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:49 am |
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Couldnt this be the idle control valve or maybe even electronic choke not working?
The electronic choke is a very long shot really, i dont really know how it works on a 180.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:53 am |
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Rich could be right as well. Hard to know exactly where the fault lies without changing stuff. Annoying I know
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| 206 GTi 180 - 406 brembos with 283mm discs, coilovers and Sparco bucket seats | |
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:05 am |
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Location: Plymouth
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sounds similar to a problem i had in my gti 137, turned out to be the coilpack
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 8:37 am |
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Check the spark plugs are bosch
Check the coolant sensor is about 1volt when the engine is at 80oc, and about 3.5volts when its cold
Check the map/maf
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:18 am |
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Ive had issues with the VVT solenoid in the past, replaced it cleared the faults on the ecu and it was spot on.
Ive only replaced my spark plugs a few months back when it had a service. denso irridium ones.
Im thinking the coolent sensor, as the temperature does fluctuate a bit, .. where is this situated?
The garage were baffled and said to use a few tins of engine flush to clear any build up of crap. they had the diagnostic machine on it and everything was fine.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:45 am |
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Get them to stick the Co2 probe up its a**e.... if its running weak it will show it. That said the ETS will give bad readings on the gauge and cause poor starting (usually from hot though)
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:47 am |
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Like lee said Peugeots only work well with Bosch plugs  Change them to Bosch, doesn't matter that you've just changed them!
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:12 am |
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| Big_Rich180 wrote: |
Couldnt this be the idle control valve or maybe even electronic choke not working?
The electronic choke is a very long shot really, i dont really know how it works on a 180. |
1) There is no idle control valve on a 180
2) There is no electronic choke on any car these days. It uses the coolant temperature to determine the amount of fuel to inject into the engine.
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:26 pm |
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at a guess i would say coolant temp sensor, i have it as quite a common fault on mini's (different make i know but exact same symptoms). the sensor reads wrong so doesn't add or reduce the fuel as required. would start there mate. as i guess i would say its located on the n/s of your engine bay on the thermostat housing
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