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Griding noises when braking
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fatboyslim
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:58 am Up
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macca1411 wrote:
Don't go to Kwik Fit, they are the biggest cowboys out there. The spotty teenager that gets hold of your keys will be lucky to have a GCSE, never mind a qualification to work on the brakes of a car. I wouldn't let them change the wheel on a shopping trolley.

A Kwik Fit Brake Technician HAS to pass the course which last 5 days,If you don't pass the course you're NOT allowed to even touch brakes
In fact Kwik-Fit fitters are star graded from 1 to 5 each grade is proficient in different aspects you MUST pass all the courses to graduate to the next level
ALL Kwik-Fit courses were developed in conjunction with the AA and use recommended AA and manufacturer guidelines
So you're wrong the fitter doing you're brakes should have a qualification

Kwik-Fit do actually offer a free brake check, they are a bit expensive,but you get the lifetime guarentee

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paul_c
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:01 am Up
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Good info there fatboyslim. The free brake check - do they measure the thickness of the discs and tell you what it is? I know mine are getting worn and are due for replacement, but if Kwik Fit can measure the thickness it would save me buying the micrometer do measure it myself. I'd be replacing the components myself, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:18 am Up
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fatboyslim wrote:
macca1411 wrote:
Don't go to Kwik Fit, they are the biggest cowboys out there. The spotty teenager that gets hold of your keys will be lucky to have a GCSE, never mind a qualification to work on the brakes of a car. I wouldn't let them change the wheel on a shopping trolley.

A Kwik Fit Brake Technician HAS to pass the course which last 5 days,If you don't pass the course you're NOT allowed to even touch brakes
In fact Kwik-Fit fitters are star graded from 1 to 5 each grade is proficient in different aspects you MUST pass all the courses to graduate to the next level
ALL Kwik-Fit courses were developed in conjunction with the AA and use recommended AA and manufacturer guidelines
So you're wrong the fitter doing you're brakes should have a qualification

Kwik-Fit do actually offer a free brake check, they are a bit expensive,but you get the lifetime guarentee

They might be graded, but that's no guarantee the manager or who ever is in charge at the time not giving the job to the apprentice. They are in the business of quick turn around, get the car in and get it out. If no qualified technician is available, it goes to the next person free. My mate took his van in (only because the leasing company have a contract with them) to get a tyre changed, they said he needed new brakes and shock absorber. He booked it in at Merc, they took one look and gave him the keys back. There was nothing wrong with with the brakes or shocks, the only thing they found wrong was a twisted tyre.
I sat outside a carpet place waiting for my delivery slot. Next to me was a Kwik Fit. 4 people in Kwik fit overalls were throwing wheel weights at each other in the car park. No thought for the cars parked up or the fact they were next to a main road.
Fills you with confidence to take any type of vehicle to a Kwik Fit fitter.

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dsiingh
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:00 pm Up
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Ok so kwik fit is a no no....thanks for the heads up everyone...I think i need to invest in a few tools if im going to own a car for as long as i plan to drive....i just hope the problem isnt too pricey..could anybody on the forum near birmingham do this for a price?
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Yep, a mate at work needed new discs and pads all round "apparently" - they charged him £500 ish and only fitted rear discs, the fronts werent changed, Id never use them.
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mtempsch
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:19 am Up
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paul_c wrote:
it would save me buying the micrometer do measure it myself. I'd be replacing the components myself, though.

I see yhat you since the quoted post sensibly have removed Kwik fit from the alternatives and sre thinking of tools - for the precision required to measure brake pads a micrometer is way overkill. A cheapo plastic caliper (labelled 'standard' in this pic would do just fine...

For more general use I'd go for one in steel. One with digital readout is easier to read (not that a normal one is very hard once you know how the vernier scale works) and also allows yo to directly (w/o math/thinking) do comparative measurements as you can zero the display at any position and get +/- readouts from there.

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dsiingh
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Thanks everyone for the advice...I wont be going to kwikfit...however today...i noticed the grinding sound went away after half an hour of driving...not sure if it was just me though....anyway i will be taking it to the mechanics...
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Just go to your local friendly mechanic, there the grafters who will do the job right for a decent price to try and keep custom.
Why I still use same mechanic, decent price, reliable and competent!

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dsiingh
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:21 pm Up
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ok so i went to a few mechanics today the prices wer relatively the same,

One gave me a quote for ferado parts not sure if they are good parts..the parts came to 70pounds and then labour is 35pounds and then vat on top.

Another gave a quote which included parts and labour including vat for 114pounds

and another gave me a quote for 89.95 for a single drum and shoe...the third mechanic took the car for a test drive and said that there maybe alot of dirt in the drum which could cause grinding...he also said hell re adjust the handbelt cable...

im not too sure sure who to go for....

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Definitely don't go to the one that quoted for the single drum and shoe. Shoes come as an axle set and should be changed as a set. Any garage that just change one side is ripping you off.

What parts have the others quoted for. You shouldn't really be spending more than £30 for a set of decent rear shoes.

If you're willing to pay £100 for the job it's tempting to buy he shoes, have a drive to West Mids and do the job myself. Even taking fuel into consideration, I'll still be £50 up.

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dsiingh
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:36 pm Up
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also should i get the drums changed or just the shoes?
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ok well im just looking at the quote for 89.95 and it says "STRIP THE REAR BRAKES, REPLACE THE WORN REAR BRAKE SHOES, REFIT BACK UP & ADJUST AS REQUIRED." so i think i may have misunderstood it and thought it was just a single shoe.

And the cost of the rear shoes is 33.74

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:55 pm Up
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do the job yourself,find someone willing to show you,or get a manual.you could teach a monkey to do the brakes on your car in less than half hour.you only know what parts you need once drum is off.will cost peanuts this way.and you will never have to listen to crap from places like quick fit for as long as you own a car.
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dsiingh
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I could do the job myself..but buying the parts + tools will probably cost alot more then 90quid and i wont have some sort of guarantee
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32mm socket for hub nut,13mm spanner for handbrake adjuster,pliers for springs and hand brake cable,hardly gonna brake the bank.the knowledge gained will be worth a small fortune over time.as for guarantee,mmm. Smile it realy is a piece of mate.
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