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 Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:41 am |
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Is this a dealer-only part (they want something like £50 for one) or is there anywhere else I can get one? Its for a 2002 206 1.6 16V auto, if it matters. I've checked on both the GSF and Euro Car Parts websites and they only list ABS sensors, not the speedo/wheel speed sensor typically found on non-ABS cars (the one in the gearbox near the driveshaft). I've done a search and a check, if the speedo reads zero and I open the door it DOESN'T flash the interior light and beep. When the sensor worked (it was intermittent but seems to have completely failed now) it DID do this.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:46 am |
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Location: Raunds, Northamptonshire
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i have seen new speed sensors on ebay for like £15-£30 before
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:52 am |
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Location: lincs
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hi have just been on bay of e and item no 370405518677 may solve your problem,it's a lot less than main dealers too! hope this helps
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:19 pm |
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Many thanks, I've been browsing eBay too. I just need to confirm if the part number is 616070 or 616024, they're similar but not the same. I'll email a few of the suppliers on eBay to check...
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:21 pm |
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Location: England
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616070 is the 206 one
£51.23 new
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:46 pm |
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Location: Salisbury / New Forest
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Rather than starting a new topic I'll ask here (sorry OP)
The speedo on my friends 206 has an intermittant fault. Usually fine but at time is shows 60mph when doing 5mph. Is it the speedo sensor or the clocks?
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:10 pm |
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| Lee wrote: |
616070 is the 206 one
£51.23 new |
Cheers, is that for all models? I have a parts diagram (well, a PDF file with hundreds of pages of parts and their parts numbers) and it suggests 616070 for BA gearboxes (manual diesel) and 616024 for MA gearboxes (manual petrol). Mine is an auto, and the parts diagrams I have doesn't have info on these, hence the needing to ask.
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Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:14 pm |
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| CD-B3 wrote: |
Rather than starting a new topic I'll ask here (sorry OP)
The speedo on my friends 206 has an intermittant fault. Usually fine but at time is shows 60mph when doing 5mph. Is it the speedo sensor or the clocks? |
I was led to belive (from searches of this forum) that a 'test' whether its the sensor or the cluster, is to open the door at a slow speed eg 5-10mph. If the interior light flashes while the speedo shows erratic (or zero) speed, then the speed sensor is fine but the cluster is faulty. If it doesn't flash, then the sensor is to blame.
Hopefully someone can confirm or deny that though.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:53 am |
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Does a failing or failed speed sensor normally log a DTC?
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:03 am |
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How do you know it's not a wiring fault? Check the connections behind the front bumper.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:04 am |
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I've thoroughly checked the wiring. I don't 100% know, but I've checked it as best I can.
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:28 pm |
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Today, after a lot of hassle getting the old one out due to a seized bolt, I've replaced it with the new one bought from eBay (which was advertised as a genuine one) and its still the same - speedo not working. Also I did that little test where if you open the door at 5-10mph, the interior light comes on steady and the car dash says "STOP", but the interior light doesn't flash.
Also I've double checked the wiring and all seems fine here (checked continuity and that its getting +12V power). And I checked the gear, it seems to fit fine. Does this mean the new sensor isn't working either? Or the cluster is at fault?
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Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 12:30 pm |
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Cluster.
Read the live data to confirm
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 5:31 am |
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| Lee wrote: |
Cluster.
Read the live data to confirm |
Interesting you should say that. I did a little research before posting, and came across these 2 threads:
www.206info.co.uk/Foru...meter.html
www.206info.co.uk/Foru...meter.html
And 2 others suggest its the speedo sensor, based on the "open door" test:
| almir92 wrote: |
| open the door to the car and start driving around 5-10 mph if the interior light starts blinking and making a noise then your speed sensor works |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| Next time the speedo needle drops to 0, open the drivers door on to the safety latch & drive of up to about 10 mph, if the interior light now starts flashing that means the speed sensor on the gearbox is working & you have a cluster fault. |
Of course, it could be the wiring too. Anyway, testing a speedo sensor or reading live data is beyond me, so I've booked it into a local garage for a 2nd opinion and I'll take it from there. If they're unable to read live data then are there independent Peugeot specialists out there who can do this, or is it a job for a Peugeot dealer? Or should any reasonably-equipped local garage cope with this these days?
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2011 6:51 am |
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Tell me year and engine. Or give the the chassis number and I'll try and tell you how to test
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