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briant

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:32 pm

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Maybe this has been covered before but im trying to decide which gear linkage to use im building a tarmac rally car & i have both 137 & 180 boxes and linkages so tying to decide which to use cable or rod i intend to use gears set from 180 as ratios are nicer for tarmac rallying, so i can fit it to either casing im using 137bhp engine so afik i can use either all feedback greatly appreciated


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LeeThr

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:21 pm

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Location: North West Wales

If you can stick to rods use them, these boxes are sloppy enough and the cables make them even worse.

gogs_macaulay wrote:

LeeThr wrote:

One Hundred million bazillion gatrillion pink rupee's

Shut it u stupid little f**k, what's the point in posting in all my treads being such a c***? Least I can afford a gti180, and to get the cam belt done!

So apparently everyone knows my financial situation? If I wanted a 180 I would have bought a 180 simples Smile

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HDI90

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:31 am

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Location: sunny stoke

last time i driven a 180 after giving it a bit of a hard time i missed the gears one or twice not sure if it was because it was cable but it felt strange but the cable box did fell tighter


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Edward

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:14 am

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Rods are more easily found at a scrappy if necessary. Therefore better supply of used parts.


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macj

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:36 am

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Location: Essex

Fit the constella quickshift kit (you will need to modify it) works great when correctly set up. Gives a nice tight snappy gear change when used with the 3 rod linkage kit. Straighten out your gear lever and weld on the bottom collar when you have it in the correct place, keep the grub screw on the top one so you can pull it to bits later if needed

JE_180

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:20 am

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Location: Wiltshire

Don't use a 180 linkage lol, they're total dog s**t at the best of times, and cost a fortune to replace if they break...


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Miles

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:11 pm

Joined: Nov 04, 2011
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Location: Fordingbridge

Same Q/S is cheaper at Comp-brake, Looks like the same thing to me but cheaper But never experienced the cable on the 206, but the 406 type is OK but will never be quick If you need some rods, I'm sure I can sort you out a deal as you will be in compeition, PS. have you got the 180 Ratios?


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briant

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 4:57 pm

Joined: Feb 13, 2010
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Location: Ireland

cheers for all the info i have a complete 180 box with the lower 1st gear and a 4.5:1 final drive with quaife ATB diff so it is really to decide which casing & selector rods to use looks like ill use the rods @macj i have the compbrake quickshift and was thinking id weld the bottom coller alright, can you recall what measurement you fitted the bottom coller up from bottom of lever


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macj

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:10 pm

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Location: Essex

I would fit it with the grub screws till your happy with the throw and then weld it up after..... I am not sure you will get the same result with my measurement

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