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 Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:00 pm |
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206 gti 2001 model, been to moon n back (113k)
Bit tappy when cold but gets better as engine warms up.
Sometimes no sound other times its quite apparent.
Engine is strong and doesnt feel different when making the noise???
Any ideas  , Is it just because its an old knacker? 
Only probs I know of are the exhausts a bit rotten and timing belt is overdue for changing and it needs a service. but reluctant to spend any money on afore mentioned if its a bagokak!!!!
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Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:52 pm |
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If it only happens on idle and low revs, it's normal
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:34 am |
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All through the rev range, get's louder when rev it.
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:25 am |
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Has it had the original hydraulic tappets replaced yet?
Pre April 2003 built EW10J4 engines have known problematic hydraulic tappets 
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:34 am |
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If its tappety when it's cold change the oil and filter. If it goes away you had clearly just been tight/idle. I had a similar problem with a mx-5 that the oil filter was so old it restricted flow and starved the tappets. 30 quids worth of oil n filter later all was well with the world. Mine also use to 'tap' occasionally if thrashed, then it would return to normal.
If the oil and filter doesn't cure it then a bit of engine work will be needed.
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| This 206 IS going on a trackday despite it's every effort to stay at home in the garage! | |
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:21 pm |
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Had oil and filter change today but made no difference 
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:53 pm |
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Game over then, if its definately rattling from the top end of the engine......
needs tappets....no idea what the cost is to replace. May as well just put up with the rattle.
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:23 am |
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I wonder if its still got the original problematic hydraulic tappets fitted or if they have been replaced in the past?
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:38 am |
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It was a bit quieter today but if I turn up the radio the sound goes completely
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:11 am |
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What oil are you using?
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:38 pm |
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| What oil are you using? |
Kwik fit. Dunno.
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:26 am |
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| m4tth3w wrote: |
| D4NTP wrote: |
| What oil are you using? |
Kwik fit. Dunno. |
You need to use the correct spec oil, wrong oil can cause all sorts of damage / problems.
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 9:10 am |
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don't think the gti lump is too picky on oil?
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 11:07 am |
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Have you checked they filled it to the right level.... I learn that the hard way when I was 17.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:34 am |
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Actually it's got a lot quieter now, and since oil change my mpg has got noticeably better.
Huzzah
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