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 Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:41 pm |
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I purchased a 2001 2.0 hdi a few weeks ago which only came with 1 key which i think is non original and has no buttons. I thought i should get another key that starts the car just in case i lose the other one.I purchased a new non original key online which was cut by using the key code number and has the transponder fitted as well but will need programming.
The new key open's the doors and will bring the ignition lights on but will not start the car. I popped along to my local locksmith who said he could programme the new key transponder using the old one and he double checked that i purchased the right transponder-which i had,he programmed the new key but it would not start the car,so i went back and he tried again-but still would not start car.
The problem i have know is that the original key wont start the car anymore as well-the locksmith check my key and said it is working fine but i have been unable to start the car and had to be towed back home.
I have tried disconnecting the battery for a little while and also pressed the fuel cut off switch and checked fuses but still no luck,the car started fine just before i had the key programmed so i would say there's nothing wrong with the car.
Just wondered if anybody has got any ideas whats gone wrong please any help would be much appreciated.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:44 pm |
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well, coding the key without connecting to the ECU is the doggy way to do things.....
easiest way is to resyn all keys with the ECU again; and hope he didn't ruin your new chip
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:48 pm |
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| Kingandy wrote: |
Just wondered if anybody has got any ideas whats gone wrong please any help would be much appreciated. |
BSI key memory has been erased, when you attempt to code a key it erases ALL keys from the memory.
You also need the 4 digit alphanumeric security code on the blue plastic card to code keys on a 206.
Keys need coding correctly with Peugeot Planet.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:51 pm |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| Kingandy wrote: |
Just wondered if anybody has got any ideas whats gone wrong please any help would be much appreciated. |
BSI key memory has been erased, when you attempt to code a key it erases ALL keys from the memory.
You also need the 4 digit alphanumeric security code on the blue plastic card to code keys on a 206.
Keys need coding correctly with Peugeot Planet. |
hmm...i know a few chinese guys don't need the code to duplicate new key from the old one;
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:52 pm |
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| Seabook wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| Kingandy wrote: |
Just wondered if anybody has got any ideas whats gone wrong please any help would be much appreciated. |
BSI key memory has been erased, when you attempt to code a key it erases ALL keys from the memory.
You also need the 4 digit alphanumeric security code on the blue plastic card to code keys on a 206.
Keys need coding correctly with Peugeot Planet. |
hmm...i know a few chinese guys don't need the code to duplicate new key from the old one; |
Id rather do the job correctly first time instead of bodging as you never know when it will go mammaries skyward 
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:57 pm |
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Wonder if the locksmith used a key cloning machine & buggered up the original key 
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:06 pm |
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| MrBSI wrote: |
| Wonder if the locksmith used a key cloning machine & buggered up the original key |
that is what I was going to say :),it's not a good idea to clone the key,always do things right :),you can see if MrBsi can do it for you,or maybe Lee,check who is the closer 
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:09 pm |
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| Timon2210 wrote: |
| MrBSI wrote: |
| Wonder if the locksmith used a key cloning machine & buggered up the original key |
that is what I was going to say :),it's not a good idea to clone the key,always do things right :),you can see if MrBsi can do it for you,or maybe Lee,check who is the closer |
I havent got Peugeot Planet, yet.............
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:31 pm |
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Thanks for all the quick replys,i did phone a Auto locksmiths who said he could come to me and supply me with new key and programme to the car for £65 maybe thats the best solution,just to add the locksmith never asked me for my immobilliser code which did make me think at the time that maybe he wasn't doing it right.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:40 pm |
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There is nothing wrong with cloning keys BUT the ID needs to be a genuine Philips Crypto and cloned with something like Zedbull. Sounds like you've tried cloning a China chip and its corrupted both of them.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:49 pm |
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I purchased the key online from a company called Car Key Help and the key i purchased was T29 Transponder (Philips Crypto ID45) which is the same as the original one,as you say it might be a poor quality one.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:55 pm |
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That's where you have gone wrong.
You can copy the ID45 to a T29, but it erases the ID45 coding. And obviously the clone wasn't successful as neither key works.
You only have a partial copy, and you need to program with dealer equipment to add a HF key as the codes embed in each other for security.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:09 pm |
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| Lee wrote: |
| There is nothing wrong with cloning keys BUT the ID needs to be a genuine Philips Crypto and cloned with something like Zedbull. Sounds like you've tried cloning a China chip and its corrupted both of them. |
Where did you buy the key?
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:13 pm |
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So would i be waisting my money getting an Auto Locksmith to program and supply a new key ?
Would you have thought the Locksmith would have known this imformation because he said he has programmed many Peugeot keys before.
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Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:19 pm |
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onI purchased the key from a online company called Car Key Help.
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