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 Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:02 am |
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P.S. Super-4 are not specified by BOSCH for any 206 engine.....
Thank you  I said super fours arnt meant for a 180 yet my mate has them in his and hes only running 3 cylinders now ,
But there are some fair points you've made there mate and it does sound like you know your stuff but at the end of the day I'm not testing to see when the spark happens or anything like that I'm saying that it doesn't matter what make plug you have if they are the same spec they will be just as good as each other, super fours on the other hand are a different spec that's what I've been trying to say
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:03 am |
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P.S. Super-4 are not specified by BOSCH for any 206 engine.....
Thank you I said super fours arnt meant for a 180 yet my mate has them in his and hes only running 3 cylinders now ,
But there are some fair points you've made there mate and it does sound like you know your stuff but at the end of the day I'm not testing to see when the spark happens or anything like that I'm saying that it doesn't matter what make plug you have if they are the same spec they will be just as good as each other, super fours on the other hand are a different spec that's what I've been trying to say
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:23 am |
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No two sparking plugs are the same spec. Too many variables.
That's the point and that's why NGK are avoided in this context.
It doesn't mean that there will definately be a cockup, but it could cause problems later-on.
Better to have less things to worry about when the inevitable time comes your pugy will have a complaint.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:27 am |
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Right okay im glad we have cleared that up
So are you saying that NGK arnt as good as Bosch because they have slack tolerances ??
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:36 am |
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| Johnbyron wrote: |
Right okay im glad we have cleared that up
So are you saying that NGK arnt as good as Bosch because they have slack tolerances ?? |
Nope.
As I understand there is a problem with them and some coil-pack/ECU in pugs.
NGK is a top brand and is used for λamda sensors by Peugeot, from the factory.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:46 am |
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Right okay good, but why do people say that NGK plugs should not be used in 206's full stop ?? If it's certain 206 models that don't like NGK why don't we say that not just say no 206 should run ngk's. So just to clarify my mate that is running Bosch super fours in his 180 could have got a problem with his coil pack due to the fact super fours are not recommended for the 206 gti 180 ??
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:46 am |
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I have spent ages looking through every post of on this thread and from what I have seen I will be sticking with Bosch plugs, as its what a lot of well trusted people on here recommend, I have also learned quite a bit from this :-D.
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:52 am |
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| DJKaySee wrote: |
| I have spent ages looking through every post of on this thread and from what I have seen I will be sticking with Bosch plugs, as its what a lot of well trusted people on here recommend, I have also learned quite a bit from this :-D. |
To be fair I would have gone for standard Bosch plugs if I had any reason to doubt NGK but I don't so I got NGK , on the other hand l have seen posts on other threads recommend Bosch super fours for a gti 180 when actually Bosch super fours arnt even supposed to go in a gti 180 so I'm glad I didn't take any notice of halfrauds
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:56 am |
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| Johnbyron wrote: |
| Right okay good, but why do people say that NGK plugs should not be used in 206's full stop ?? If it's certain 206 models that don't like NGK why don't we say that not just say no 206 should run ngk's. So just to clarify my mate that is running Bosch super fours in his 180 could have got a problem with his coil pack due to the fact super fours are not recommended for the 206 gti 180 ?? |
| V9977 wrote: |
All modern spark-plugs include an anti-parasitic resistor in series with the center electrode.
It is this resistor (not tightly specified by manufacturers) which can sometimes cause havoc
with NGK plugs and pug coilpacks / ECU. There have been numerous Info-flash issued
by Peugeot themselves about this and is deffo not a myth.
It is also deadly important to fit the part-code explicitly specified by the plug manufacturer for your engine.
Not enough to compare heat-range, thread size and length.
NGK are OEM λ-probes for the 206 so no-one is dissing the brand.
Imo if you ask on here, you will get people's advice/past experience even if you choose to
bear it in-mind, but actually ignore it. Otherwise why ask?
P.S. Anyone ever wondered why there is only 4 wires going to the coil-pack,
when 1 wire is earth but there is 4 spark-plugs? |
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:03 am |
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Sorry I typed that wrong I don't mean why is it that Ngk plugs mess with pug coil packs I'm asking why people on here slate NGK and tell people to use Bosch super four when actually that's just as bad as using NGK because NGK doesn't mess with all coil packs on 206's ??? I don't have anything bad to say about either of the manufactures
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Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:39 pm |
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Go buy them from your local dealer. You'll get a nice box with Peugeot lions all over it.. With Bosch plugs inside!
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:32 am |
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| crocdino wrote: |
| Go buy them from your local dealer. You'll get a nice box with Peugeot lions all over it.. With Bosch plugs inside! |
Nope, Eyquem.
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:40 am |
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Is this thread still goin on lol
Best way is to try it your self buy 4of each and test them 
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:39 am |
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Well I got standard ngk's in so how about we close the thread and I'll make a new one when my coil pack goes caput 
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:35 pm |
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Lol I think it was one Of them things like the ebc myth.
I did change mine when I 1st had my pug with ngk and did swap for both and it stopped the jurking.
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