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tri-stu
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:03 am Up
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Hi i have a 2004 gti 180 does anyone know how to get rid of a horrible judder /rough tick over..had the throttle body off and cleaned ...the butter fly at min reves seams to have a mind of its own ..ive done a TB calibration still same...can any one help thanks, stu
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Does the judder continue when clutch pedal is pressed in?

 


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tri-stu
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:21 am Up
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yes,
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Have you had your cambelt and waterpump done in the last 3 years?

 


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tri-stu
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:34 am Up
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yes, ..its more of a miss or a feeling that the throttle just been blipped
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Maybe it's misfiring as you stated above?

 


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been on cadwell track day last Wednesday full on all day no problem ...been getting problem for months re started Thursday same problem ..i've done a scan no faults recorded
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mines the same, only on start up after a few minutes of rev'ing / driving it settles down ? its the engine shaking and you can feel it through the whole car ??
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tri-stu
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yes..but when on no revs say in 4th coming through a village it will start hunting done another scan and come up with a code p1153drive train
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tri-stu
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bttt
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P1153 = Bank 2 Fuel is lean

Thats not the most helpful of codes, but as you have some indication its towards the fue, i would test the harness for resistance, if there is an air leak allowing more air in reducing the A/F ratio and reading the injector parameters to see whether they are close to the referance value (also check manifold pressure, as anything above 400 milli bars indicates an air leak)

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i had a similar problem the other day when pulling out of first the car started juddering violently... after the 5th time it gave one big jolt and its not done it since. it felt like something was stuck or maybe an air bubble or something like that im not a genius when it comes to mechanics. but i would like to know what caused it in the first place
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changed the throttle body today, cleared faults just done a learn ....will it work will let you know
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tri-stu
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Very Happy problem gone
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Idea the problem seems to be the butterfly sticking in the fully closed position, which it is not normally in as it has to be slightly open to allow idle, how ever because the TB is sticking closed the motor has to drive back to open which is more open than the ECU (hysteresis or back lash) expected causing revs to rise and the ecu driving the throttle back to closed then repeats it.
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