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Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:21 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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Location: Athens, Greece
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gpvecchi wrote: |
Because both of them works, but with different temperatures. This is why a BSI has to be configured correctly... |
Oh, OK didn't know that. How big a difference between the two?
I would have gladly checked for you by now but it doesn't have oil-temp on the Mrs. mux 206.
Also, every time she sees me approaching it with that laptop there is a big fight, I don't know why.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:29 am |
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Joined: Jan 29, 2011 Posts: 6526
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Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire
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I don't have oil temp gauge on mine otherwise I'd have a look.
I have had a look on Autodata at the wiring diagrams, and they don't help.
Best I can find is the oil temp for CO check (think it was that, was last night when I looked) is 80 degrees. Hopefully one of your readings is close to this.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:35 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11520
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Location: What's it to you? ? ?
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I retrofitted oil temp to my TU3 but I don't have access to Planet, someone at a Peugeot main dealer activated it for me for beer tokens.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:10 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 526
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Location: Italy
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V9977 wrote: |
How big a difference between the two? |
About +5 degrees when hot and -5 degrees when cold...
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:18 am |
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Joined: Nov 27, 2010 Posts: 11520
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If you have access to a proper official emissions tester just stick its oil temp probe down the dipstick tube & try both settings till you get the one thats near enough.
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:22 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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Location: Athens, Greece
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gpvecchi wrote: |
V9977 wrote: |
How big a difference between the two? |
About +5 degrees when hot and -5 degrees when cold... |
Correlation is rarely spot-on anyway, try what Mr.BSI said and see which is closer but it might still be +/-5 C out even then.
What year/model is the car?
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Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:16 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 838
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Location: Taking a gearbox off somewhere
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I had a look for you today but all I could find was:
separate oil temperature sensor Present
I can't find anything about the source. If you can point me in the right direction about where you found this setting i'll have another look for you.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:08 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 526
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Location: Italy
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V9977 wrote: |
gpvecchi wrote: |
V9977 wrote: |
How big a difference between the two? |
About +5 degrees when hot and -5 degrees when cold... |
Correlation is rarely spot-on anyway, try what Mr.BSI said and see which is closer but it might still be +/-5 C out even then.
What year/model is the car? |
2004 RC
pug206lx wrote: |
I had a look for you today but all I could find was:
separate oil temperature sensor Present
I can't find anything about the source. If you can point me in the right direction about where you found this setting i'll have another look for you. |
It should be 2 lines below...
In this image (in italian) you have
separate oil temperature sensor Present
oil level sensor Present
origin of "oil temperature" information BSI
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:05 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 838
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This is what I have. Mine is a 2003 GTi 138 so must be different to yours.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 12:51 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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Location: Athens, Greece
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pug206lx wrote: |
This is what I have. Mine is a 2003 GTi 138 so must be different to yours. |
Did you press 'arrow-down' key on the keyboard?
Looks like there could be more settings further down there to me.
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:05 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 838
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I did, it only goes down to the last option in that picture
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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:50 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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According to this schematic for 2004 RC instrument panel, the sensor goes to the BSI.
Makes sense because I don't think oil-temp is actually monitored for running of the engine, by the ECU.
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:36 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 526
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Location: Italy
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pug206lx wrote: |
I did, it only goes down to the last option in that picture |
Have you tried sliding down with your mouse pointer? There's a sliding bar on the right...
V9977 wrote: |
According to this schematic for 2004 RC instrument panel, the sensor goes to the BSI.
Makes sense because I don't think oil-temp is actually monitored for running of the engine, by the ECU.
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I'm not sure that ECU doesn't need oil temp to correct maps...
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Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:15 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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Location: Athens, Greece
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In any case oil temp sensor is connected directly to BSI module 2.
Since the BSI supplies all data to the cluster via VAN-bus anyway I don't see the issue. Unless you want to measure empiracly as Mr.BSI said and take your pick. Bear in mind, correlation on these gauges is way off, also due to the damping used, which will give wildly different readings compared to PP2000 data esp. until a value has settled for a while.
The sliding bar is misleading on that screen and if he's pressed arrow-down, that's the same thing as trying to move the slider.
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