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Need Help- sounds like a pnuematic drill when i accelerate
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FAS1950
PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:19 pm Up
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I have a 2000 Roland Gaross 206 8v 1.4i Auto. Can anybody please give advise and or let me know if they have encountered this problem; and what is the likely cause. I am getting excessive noise (like a pnuematic drill) when accelerating, gets really noisy. When i take my foot of the accellerator it stops and also when I get over 45mph, and stay at that speed, it seems to go. Then as I have to reduce speed to slow down, it comes back and is really noisy. I have just had the Cam Belt done 2 weeks ago, as it had done 83k miles and a few other jobs for the MOT. I know its not the coil pack or plugs as they have been checked. Thanks in advance.

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So a thudding noise? Any vibrations in the car?
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Don't drive it till you've at least checked the cam belt tensioner.
 
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Addaz wrote:
So a thudding noise? Any vibrations in the car?

Yes on acceleration you can also feel slight vibration through steering column. I had to drive it home from family which was a 13 mile journey

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Check tyre condition and pressures, but more likely your front tyres need tracking and balancing
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LORDPSK wrote:
Check tyre condition and pressures, but more likely your front tyres need tracking and balancing
. Thanks for your advise, didnt think "tracking and balancing" could cause such noise? Its only when pressing accellerator to increase speed or when slowing down that it starts again, and there's slight vibration through the steering column. You would actually think that there was no exhaust on the car, the noise it makes. I know the exhaust is good, as I had a full one done 18 months ago and had to take it back twice as it rattled, and it was removed and refitted/welded. Ive just had car fully examined for it's MOT and it needed a front pipe replacing. Im wondering if its the cat, as when its sailing a long at 50 - 60mph it seems fine.

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Vibration through steering is normally tyres, or if badly worn steering, track rod ends, track control arm bushes, ball joints.

Lift both wheels off floor at same time on axle stands to check if steering fault, I have not known a exhaust to feel a vibration in the steering

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Could be another auto box problem?

Cambelt jumped a tooth or 2?

Exhaust blowing?

Is the car still accelerating smoothly or have you felt a loss of power?

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HI Maca1411

Thanks for response, I have just gone to car and started it, it does sound like exhaust blowing but loud and rattly. When i drive it and use the "gas" pedal to accelerate, it gets even louder and "Tap Tap" like a pneumatic drill, when i take my foot of the "gas" it stops and goes quite. Then when i have to slow down it comes back. As i mentioned prev, it had a complete inspection for MOT 2 weeks ago, when front pipe was replaced, front brakes and cambelt. It sounded "throaty" when i got it back, but Roland Gaross are noted for this, so I wasnt concerned at the time. Since then I have done about `150 mile in it; and all was fine. Then this latest episode happened on Friday. Im a slightly disabled women (not that it matters as i have a brain) im not mechanically minded, but I try and read up on my cars problems, using this site to see if any other members have encountered the same. Plus reading the "how to section" which is excellent. Thanks to all for advise received so far. I have sent the garage that did the work an e-mail; i am waiting a reply. All advise is really appreciated. Will keep the site informed of any work done and the outcome; as this is very important to all "Pug" owners. We all love our cars and if we can pool our problems and how they are resolved or not; it will benifit all.

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The exhaust will not bring shaking to the steering etc.
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Hi

Thanks, I will try and explain what i called vibration. There is no "visible shaking" of the steering wheel, you can "feel" a vibration through your hands, when holding the steering wheel and using the accelerator. Plus the extreme blowing/ticking noise is there. When foot of accelerator no vibration feeling, just noise when driving below 50-55mph. It seems to stop when cruising at or above these speeds. Then when the car is slowing down; just the awful blowing/ticking noise starting again, and you dont feel any vibration through steering wheel.

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If your wheels are severly out of balance it can cause a lot of things

Ie royal mail bipper vans had so much mud in the wheel that it cause such an imbalance anything above 30 and you thought the vehicle was going to fall apart

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Hi Addaz

Thanks for that, i really appreciate any advise and help. Mine is the opposite of what you have quoted, anything below 50-55 is when the severe noise and feeling vibration (none visible) through steering wheel, when using accelerator pedal only. When at this speed and above loud blowing/ticking noise stops; when foot is of accelerator and crusing. ,As soon as i have to slow down below 50ish, it comes back immediately. Souinds like i havnt got a silencer its that loud.

Tried a a reboot of ecu 30 mins ago, got out of car and looked and listened. Exhaust back box sounding like it was rattling so spare wheel and jack might not have been put back in cradle properly by garage, I had this happen last time an exhaust was fitted. Noise was there still but quiter and raspy/throaty. I sat in car and pressed accelerator and it still is getting very noisy whilst accelerating and I could also hear the exhaust rattle to rear; as still had window down from ecu reset.

Garage hasnt been back to me, i will ring them shortly, but they arnt Peugeot experts, like the tecchies on here, so please boys any ideas beside wheel balancing/tracking, which probably does need doing. I think the key factor with this problem is, that is it happening from stand still at a quieter volume and increases notably as i accelerate. Stopping when i am cruising at 50-55 and above, as i have come of the accelerator.

Merry Christmas everyone, Fas x

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Driveshafts?
Valve stuck open?

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Many Thanks

You have same engine as mine!!

Merry Xmas FAS

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