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 Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:02 pm |
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Hi i have a peugeot 206 HDI 2.0 Diesel that runs 100% when i fill up at a petrol station, but overruns and cuts out once i pour the diesel in using a jerry can?
Could anyone tell me why the car accepts fuel from the pump but not from the jerry can?
If it helps this happens with fuel bought at any garage, texaco, shell etc
Really appreciate any help with this........Thanks
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:08 pm |
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Have you put petrol in the same jerry can before? If you have, then it could be a case of that some of the old petrol has mixed in with the diesel and hence why the engine wont run properly.
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 6:56 pm |
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Hi thanks for reply.
No the cans have only ever had diesel in them before. I should mention the cans are usually poured in the same day too. Im thinking its something to do with how the speed and pressure at the pump is more than that when manually pouring?
But not sure why that would make any difference?
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:23 pm |
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This may sound abit optimistic, but it may be that when you pour the fuel in using a jerry can, that the seal around the top of the neck and between the pipe from the jerry can, cannot really be sealed properly and a little bit of air is mixing in with the fuel, causing your overrunning and cutting out. Diesels tend not to run properly with air in the fuel system and you generally find problems such as this when they're is air in the fuel system.
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:45 pm |
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I think your right, have just been reading up on HDI's and problems associated with air getting into the fuel system. What usually happens is i would be driving along the motorway and suddenly the 'anti-pollution' comes on, total power loss, even steering! Then after a few minutes it starts up as normal. Had the car to four garages, £20-30 for same diagnostic - 'Fuel pressure rail to high', but couldn't specify why because pumps etc working fine. Yet once i stop using Jerry cans the problem disapears! They were just convieniant for where i live. I did this for the first 5 years with the car and had no problems so just wondering why now! How could air get in any differently now than before? lol
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:15 am |
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Take it you're using nicked fuel?
If you're getting it from the council or things like that, they have a blue dye in usually that layers the injectors and pumps...like cherry diesel
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:33 am |
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Whether you pour it in the tank from a jerry can or use a pump the fuel gets to the engine the same way, so that shouldn't be an issue unless you have got crappy fuel cans, left the can open so it's got water in or just crap fuel.
Diesel from unofficial sources is usually of a lower grade as it's used in commercial vehicle engines which can take a bit of crappy fuel and run lumpy. I used to find this when I filled the car up from the bulk tank at work. The fuel was better suited for the Merc Actros engines rather than the Ford TDCi
If you have let the tank get low before fuelling up, then you could have picked some s**t up in the pick up pipe
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:31 am |
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"Take it you're using nicked fuel?"
Kind of a retarded assumption you're making there qwert.
I fill my car from jerry cans too as the fuel gauge doesn't work and easier just to fill it when I want.
Also I run on 50/50 biodiesel too so store it in jerry cans.
It's a good idea to think before you type then you won't appear to have learning difficulties.
Andy
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