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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:47 am |
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Joined: Sep 13, 2010 Posts: 177
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Location: Malta
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Hi, I searched through the forum but found nothing helpful.
I had the rev meter and speedo meter both with what it seemed a stuck needle...so I got the instrument out and as suggested on here I removed the plastic front and removed the needles sprayed some WD-40 and put everything back on...went for a drive and to my astonishment it worked!!! BUT i noticed another Problem which is bigger then having a rev counter not working....
My Kilometer counter on the top just blanked :/ I have nothing...I tried switching the engine off and on but still nothing...
I have a 1999, 1.4l (pre-plex) without oil gauge...have I destroyed the ribbon? I sure hope not!
Thank you
EDIT: One think I didnt do before removing the cluster is disconnecting the battery which i thought of it after every thing was done stupid (thought I should mention it)
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:41 pm |
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Joined: Sep 13, 2010 Posts: 177
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Location: Malta
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any one? I checked the fuse after a google search cause that seemed to be a problem for most! But all fuses are good... any one got any ideas?
thanks
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:06 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2719
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Location: UK
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You'll have to check the ribbon, sometimes the plastic/glass front over the mileage counter can come away.
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:11 pm |
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Joined: Sep 13, 2010 Posts: 177
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Location: Malta
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and how can I do that....mine is the preplexed one the one with the bulbs not with Led's...there is some sort of white back panel before the actual board and ribbon...so actually i never saw the ribbon while fixing the needles...
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:18 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2719
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Location: UK
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Cant remember tbh, you'll have to take it off and look at it again.
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:37 pm |
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Joined: Sep 13, 2010 Posts: 177
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Location: Malta
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ok, got back to the car this time at nights, and noticed that if I get close to the instrument and try hard enough I can actually make out the numbers...and the trip counter also works because i saw it reset ,....Is it now a case of bulb???
thanks
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:42 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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Location: Athens, Greece
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There is a bulb behind the counter and when you removed the cluster you disturbed it and it then blew.
I have done exactly the same too, and many others so it's nothing to worry about and very easy to fix.
I would carefully check all other bulbs behind the cluster as after 14 years the fillament becomes frail and even a slight knock will mean they blow soon after.
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Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:52 pm |
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Joined: May 17, 2012 Posts: 79
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Location: Kentpipe
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Yeah its definitely the bulb just behind the ribbon otherwise the numbers wouldn't be readable at all. Be careful when taking the cluster apart cause you can easily split the ribbon. Its glued and comes apart easily. I made that mistake and never found a way to glue it together. It needed pressure to make contact with the board and I finally gave up and got myself another one.
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:16 am |
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Joined: Sep 13, 2010 Posts: 177
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Location: Malta
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thanks all! Thats a relief! I will go down and somehow change the bulb....the only problem is that I have bought led's with the "same" fitment (thought about changing all bulbs back then but never done it) yesterday since the cluster was open I tried but they fit too loosely and I tried to adjust the metal connectors on the bulb and they still wont fit good!!!
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x...51a4b63bba
509t is the fitment right? would a pug dealer have the exact bulb?
thanks
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:22 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2949
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Location: Athens, Greece
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They are very very cheap those pigmy lamps. I would replace all of them for sure. However, I would strongly recomend normal incardecent and not LED personaly. Keep the old OEM holders and just replace the bulb itself only.
You do not have to mess-around with the ribbon or even take the unit appart, just unscrew each white plastic holder and out they come.
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:37 am |
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Joined: Sep 13, 2010 Posts: 177
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Location: Malta
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thanks for your help! I managed do replace them with the LED's which I had! With the long nose plyer I managed to twist the metal parts for a tight fit. I havent replaced them all, I replaced those that illuminate the Counters and the milage counter. now I have white needles instead of yellowish needle hehe
I didnt have to take the unit apart..just removed it twisted and removed old bulbs and inserted new modified led's...
thanks again!
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