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Zack

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:39 am

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What manifold would be better for my 206 gti 137 180 manifold or stainless 4 - 1 manifold or Stainless 4 - 2 - 1 manifold cheers

Edward

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:45 am

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4-2-1 but they tend to be long so you'll also need uprated engine mounts to restrict engine movement.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

Zack

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:48 am

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Im running on group N on bottom engine mount or do you need the lot? cheers

iainlovatt

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:46 am

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i have a 180 one you can have on the cheap! pm me if you are interested..


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Zack

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:34 pm

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iainlovatt wrote:

i have a 180 one you can have on the cheap!
pm me if you are interested..

Yea but what will the gains be :/

Edward

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:38 pm

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A single modification on its own will get you next to nothing. You need to fit it with other changes to get the full benefit.


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

Zack

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:44 pm

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Yea but would it still be as good as 4 - 2 - 1? with cat cams

Edward

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:01 pm

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Which Cat Cams?


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

Zack

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:14 pm

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www.catcams.co.uk/acat...files.html these any good?

Zack

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:08 pm

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any one?

usher

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:54 am

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rattles down to cost really

180 mani will be less than 100 quid and easyer to fit, might need to change gear linkage slightly not sure

rraceland 4-1 less than 200 quid more noticable gains than the 180 but needs engine dropping a few inch or sub frame removing and some custom work to fit the cat back

the 4-2-1 is over 500 quid and as wdward says will require all engine mounts upgrading and the same work as the 4-1 but the gains will be better

as for the cams i dont think you get alot from them alone you need more head work to get the most out of them and for over 1500 quid for 15-25 bhp max

i got 10bhp from a piper reprofile and that was a cheaper option but still cost near 1000 re profile


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Zack

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:45 am

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usher wrote:

So for a quick and easy gain 180 manifold. would it sound different?

With them cams do you need re mapp of any thing?

Thanks Smile

usher

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:07 am

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with any cams you need a re-map 180 manifold might give you something but doubtfull, raceland is good for midrange torque cant coment on the 4-2-1 i would say you will gain 10 from the map 5 from cams and 5 from manifold max but you wont see them gains indevidually you will need the mapto get the max out of all of them


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Zack

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:26 am

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Not a bad gain tho id be happy with 13 from all that. At the min im running just a de cat. Plan is to get a K&N Typhoon Induction Kits, The Cams you said, 180 Manifold, And Then Remap it all. What BHP you running? cheers

LeeThr

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:56 am

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usher wrote:

180 mani will be less than 100 quid and easyer to fit, might need to change gear linkage slightly not sure

You have to change to the dog w**k 180 cable setup the 138 rod setup will not clear the 180 exhaust manifold.

gogs_macaulay wrote:

LeeThr wrote:

One Hundred million bazillion gatrillion pink rupee's

Shut it u stupid little f**k, what's the point in posting in all my treads being such a c***? Least I can afford a gti180, and to get the cam belt done!

So apparently everyone knows my financial situation? If I wanted a 180 I would have bought a 180 simples Smile

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