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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:44 am |
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I've done almost 4000 miles since my coolant change. I've used proper pug stuff when it was changed.
I've had to top it up three times however since changing it. The car doesn't overheat, it just asks me to top it up.
I'm not considering this as normal behaviour. I cannot see if its dripping as the big cover is currently bolted on.
It lost some of a period of two days where the car wasn't used or even started, so i'm expecting there to be a leak somewhere.
Before anyone says 'I told you so' because of the model of engine/car, coolant leaks happen on all cars, so please helpful answers.
Any idea where to start looking?
Cheers
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:38 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Location: In the garage
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I'd look at the bottom of the reservoir - depending on the type of reservoir fitted. Later ones have a normal hose and jubliee clip which is reliable. Earlier ones had a metal coupling held in place with a circlip. These can leak.
I think the later radiator hoses don't use jubilee clips but couplings built into the hoses. My wifes 207 CC uses these and on the reservoir if I move the hose I have hear a schlurping sound as air enters the system! I top hers up with about 100ml ish once a year.
My 206 never lost any coolant and my Jetta doesnt ever drop either.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:21 am |
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Thank you Edward.
I Can always depend on your for very good advice!!
I will be taking the undercar cover off later (if it stops bloody raining!!!!) when I get home from work, as you just cannot see anything in these engine bays any more!
If it is that, I can just replace coupling with proper pipe and jubilee clip it?
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:05 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3666
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Location: Scotland
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Check the bottom of the radiator. It catches all the s**t off the road which corrodes the cores.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:16 am |
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Will do
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:19 pm |
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Joined: Feb 10, 2010 Posts: 4266
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Location: Palestine
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well the best way to make sure where the leak is-If you have any-is to use the air pressure method,which mean you put high pressure air in the cooling system,and the weakest point ,even a hair line crack will be seen with coolant going out from there
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:14 pm |
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When the coolant was changed we used a vacuum type system to suck all air out before putting it all back in again. When that happened it would have shown up a leak.
It must have happened since the coolant was replaced. I haven't had chance to look yet as weather has been bad
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 12:05 pm |
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I have a leak at the end nearest the oil cooler in the radiator. Any idea where i can get a new one?
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Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:08 pm |
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Plenty on line between £45 - £60 excluding delivery.
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Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:19 am |
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Joined: Aug 01, 2011 Posts: 390
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Location: Bath UK
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When the coolant doesn't level out after someone says they have done a coolant change then I would suspect ineffective bleeding on the refill. A leak doesn't start because of a coolant change but ineffective bleeding is very high on the probabilities. A coincidence that you suddenly get a leak that you can't see after changing the coolant? I wouldn't think so
First thing I would do is set about rebleeding it using the normal methods as detailed in the manual
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:55 am |
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I saw it dripping out the bottom of the radiator
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:26 am |
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Joined: Jan 29, 2011 Posts: 6526
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We used to drop a couple of raw eggs (works better than Radweld) into the radiator to plug a leaky hole
Leave the engine to run for a while and the egg is forced into the hole from the pressure . It cooks and seals it like a rubbery grommet. It's only supposed to be a make do and mend solution but I've known it last for a while.
Never tried it with an expansion bottle, so I would try to read up on it more before trying it.
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:43 am |
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I'm just going to replace the radiator.
I have heard of that method, but I do 500 miles a week, cannot trust eggs for that.
Rads are readily available and it looks to be an easy job so i'll get the whole thing done properly.
Has anyone got the actual sizes of the radiator for my model?
Cheers
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:23 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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Just make sur eyou get the right radiator for the age of your 206.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:33 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 3666
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macca1411 wrote: |
We used to drop a couple of raw eggs (works better than Radweld) into the radiator to plug a leaky hole
Leave the engine to run for a while and the egg is forced into the hole from the pressure . It cooks and seals it like a rubbery grommet. It's only supposed to be a make do and mend solution but I've known it last for a while. |
Bodge. Some cooked eggs won't stop the a**e falling out the radiator if it's rotten.
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