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 Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:58 pm |
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Hey, everyone. I've suddenly began to hate my pug, purely on something so silly. Basically, my front wheels stick out further than the rear.
I used to run vortex's prior to lowering my car, both front and rear where then out the same amount... Now, after lowering my car, the wheels would rub on the coilovers (grr!) so I've had to put 5mm spacers on the front.
That "5mm" was enough to now make me hate my car.
Does anyone have any recommendations??
I'm half tempted to raise the rear, and use 5mm spacers to match it out.. Kind of worried about weight in the back then, only takes it to slam down onto the wheels once to get a big puncture:\
My tyres are 205/45/17, could there be anything there to change that might help??
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:17 am |
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People normally put 205/40/17 tyres on vortex alloys, might stop the rubbing depending on where the rubbing is, as the tyre is 10mm thinner (5mm top and 5mm bottom)
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:24 am |
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Get some sp arches?
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 2:27 am |
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Sport wings?
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:54 am |
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Are they actually wider then? I've looked at them and they look identical to me.. Would I need a sports bumper or will the standard non-sport fit happily? I'm trying to align my front and rear wheels so they're the same distance out, so this wouldn't really fix my OCD problem, though.
| webbo_23 wrote: |
| People normally put 205/40/17 tyres on vortex alloys, might stop the rubbing depending on where the rubbing is, as the tyre is 10mm thinner (5mm top and 5mm bottom) |
I went for 205/45/17 as that was the norm of tyre size when I was looking into buying the tyres. So 205/40/17 would create more of a stretch on the tyres so to say? as they do come out further than the alloy which could explain the rubbing.. The tire wall would rub up against the coilover is all, once I put 5mm spacers on the problem was sorted.
| mattymj wrote: |
| Get some sp arches? |
Not a fan of them, nor will they sort the problem:(
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:30 am |
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you could put some stretch tyres on your vortexs then space the back wheels out
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:18 am |
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Flatten the inner arch at the back (the lip). Raise the back and poke them out
Put some 185/35 tyres on the vortexs and then get a GTI front end. She will look amazing then 
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:59 pm |
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| Addaz wrote: |
Flatten the inner arch at the back (the lip). Raise the back and poke them out
Put some 185/35 tyres on the vortexs and then get a GTI front end. She will look amazing then |
so raise it up so the whole wheels on show and then use spacers to bring them out?
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:36 pm |
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:59 pm |
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flattening the lip gives you a good 5mm to play with to space out the wheels , i grinded mine off
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:05 pm |
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| usher wrote: |
| flattening the lip gives you a good 5mm to play with to space out the wheels , i grinded mine off |
the lip on the rear? I know exactly what you're on about. Inside the arch there's a bit coming out towards the wheel? May get the grinder out tomorrow lol
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:06 pm |
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To give you an idea I fitted 20mm spacers to the rear of mine today, its on stock height at the back at the moment, and I run challangers which are narrower than vortex, but the rear looking hidden inside the arches annoyed me too so decided to bring the rears out to match, I will then be lowering the rear to match in the next few weeks.
No spacer
20mm spacers fitted to rear
So far it hasn't scrubbed, but as I said Im on stock height, I am hoping I can get away with 30mm lower on the rear without having to fold the rear arch over
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:13 pm |
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When I lowered my pug with coilovers (pro sport), I had to put on 5mm spacers on the front because the alloys would rub onto the springs. This brought the front out further than the rear which I hate. I can't even get my finger into the gap between my rear arch and wheel, but there is like a "lip" as mentioned earlier which I'll try filing off tomorrow. Hopefully 5mm is all I need to bring them out matching..I want mine to look exactly like yours, Robb.. May have to invest into some challengers:\
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:41 pm |
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Well vortex will sit 9mm further out than challengers with my calculations, so to to achieve the same look as mine on the rear you need to bring yours out by 11mm, you can get 10mm hubcentric spacers, but after a bit of research I've found most can't get them to fit as the spigot is too deep so you would be safer with 12mm hubcentric spacers on the rear. Which would stick your wheels out 1mm more than me.
That should give you enough width on the rear to stop the fronts looking so wide, the problem is at stock the treats already look a lot narrow than the front, so by spacing the fronts you have exaggerated this even more!
Only issue is that 12mm spaces may get you catching on the rear as you have bigger tyres, I'm running 40s
Hope that helped a little, I've tried getting advice on spacing previously but not many seem to bother on the 206 for some reason so it's a bit of trial and error
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Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:53 pm |
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| robb wrote: |
Well vortex will sit 9mm further out than challengers with my calculations, so to to achieve the same look as mine on the rear you need to bring yours out by 11mm, you can get 10mm hubcentric spacers, but after a bit of research I've found most can't get them to fit as the spigot is too deep so you would be safer with 12mm hubcentric spacers on the rear. Which would stick your wheels out 1mm more than me.
That should give you enough width on the rear to stop the fronts looking so wide, the problem is at stock the treats already look a lot narrow than the front, so by spacing the fronts you have exaggerated this even more!
Only issue is that 12mm spaces may get you catching on the rear as you have bigger tyres, I'm running 40s
Hope that helped a little, I've tried getting advice on spacing previously but not many seem to bother on the 206 for some reason so it's a bit of trial and error |
Really appreciate this, thanks:) doesn't look like I'll be able to pull this off then, unless I roll my rear arches:\ Can't think how a 180 has there front and rear wheels aligned. I know the front arches are different, but that doesn't explain how the rears come out without being away from the body.
Can you send me a picture of your challengers? are they the ones that look like vortexs but with a circle in the middle instead of being a single piece?
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