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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2015 2:44 pm |
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Joined: Apr 16, 2013
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Location: Blackburn
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Well so far I would say im around 70% ready for installing the turbo setup. Just waiting on the injectors, fuel pump, ECU (megasquirt) and FPR. So as you can tell I am still a few big bills away from being ready to take the car to (hopefully) bailey Performance in Telford.
I might get abit impatient and fit a few bits this coming week
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:43 pm |
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Joined: Apr 16, 2013
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Location: Blackburn
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Had a quote off Bailey motorsport for providing all parts needed to fit the megasquirt v2.. installation and setup. £1200 all in.
I have been reading through a few internet pages and have come across a few interesting threads saying that it is possible to run the oem ecu with a low boost.. larger injectors and an afr to control the fuel.
Now I know most people will say stick with standalone ecu but do any of you have any knowledge on standard management turbo builds. As i have said previously on the build I will not be running big power as it will only be around 240bhp with standard internals and a decompression playe running along a single headgasket.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:24 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Suffolk
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If you run decomp you need two headgaskets, and please just avoid megasquirt
You will seeiously seriously regret it in the future
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
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144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
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For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:09 am |
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Location: Blackburn
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Gasket.. decomp plate.. gasket. Dp-engineering and a few others say one gasket with a sealant seal under the decomp plate.
What do you have issue wise with megasquirt? I have heard they are good due to be able to upgrade parts and fit newer running systems for future upgrades.
Bailey motorsport use them for their builds and they are s**t hot.. heard bothing but good things about them. Are you on about the older versions of the v1?
Have you had expierience with them? could you let me know your thoughts about them Addaz.. what did you run omex?
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:33 am |
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:10 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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I find it very hard to believe that a Megasquirt ecu is better than any of those others!
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:14 am |
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From what I have read its an ecu that is capable of being upgraded when better ruñning systems come out where as the others arent. But at the same time not as widely mapped as omex and emerald in the uk. People have their own preference and I can't really comment because used any of the units. I know a few people that run megasquirt that praise it. It can be a simple DIY unit or it can be a fully loaded pre-built unit. As said I haven't had the chance to run different ecu's so I can't really comment on which is better the better ECU. Some of you guy's will know better.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:30 pm; edited 2 times in total
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:19 am |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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Location: Suffolk
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Its w**k beyond belief, i should i know i have one!
The map scaling/ratio is s**t, half the stuff is missing you need, a map square isnt seen and causes a misfire, boost control doesnt work and it almost dies every time you save your settings which is regular as!
Honestly for the cost, go emerald for the love of god. Speak to track n road in essex, two of the best mappers youll ever meet. Or even rs tuning, they will laugh at megasquirt
When i say its caused more problems then its saved, im being as honest as i can! I wish i never bought mine, just go for a good known english brand!
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 10:42 am |
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Which megasquirt unit amd version did you have addaz.
Like I say I dont know much about any of the ecu setups to be honest.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Last edited by 206gt160 on Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:31 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 1:42 pm |
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I'd stick to the tried and tested brands with customer service support. You can always sell those ECUs and get good money for them later.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 2:53 pm |
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I have an ms2, and its s**t but i dont want to fork out again to upgrade
And for a boosted setup i would go for an emerald
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| Team Impossible Possible
The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible - Arthur C. Clarke
Forged 1.6 Turbo
Click to see more
144Bhp @ 7PSi - 193.9Bhp @ 13psi
206 Gti Race Car
Click to see more
For all Race/Track Preparation, Feel Free to PM Me!
Whether its for a custom ratio gearbox or track-day alignment, I can help! | |
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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 3:19 am |
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Cars looks great mate, really need to get stuck in with mine. I've done couple of bits now, like auto testing and a day a Gurston Hill Climb with the driving school with the car more or less standard, and I can honestly say the only thing in the car that needed to be fast is me. The fact the car wasn't stupidly quick and want to kill me at every opportunity made it so much more fun and easy to learn etc. If you go turbo fair play, but I'd get used to the car as standard, by the end of the day at Gurston I was only little slower than a couple of Boxter's. Either way, good luck, looking forward to seeing how the car turns out. Keep us updated.
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Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:53 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010
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I rang this company up at the time of my build (6years ago) and they had never heard of emerald or omex systems and tried to sell me the 'megasquirt' at this point the phone call was ended. you'll find it hard to find many mappers who will touch it as it's.... well not the best is what I was told be top Rolling road companies.
Oh did he tell you about his 1000bhp cossie engine he's building?
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:38 am |
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What are you lads running the throttles on? Omex or emerald?
Also how much was ecu and loom?
May go with omex or emerald now. I had heard so many people give megasquirt a top review but you guys are the opposite.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:38 am |
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What are you lads running the throttles on? Omex or emerald?
Also how much was ecu and loom?
May go with omex or emerald now. I had heard so many people give megasquirt a top review but you guys are the opposite.
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| 1999 206 Gt... Gti180 inlet, Gti180 exhaust manifold, Gti180 injectors, Gti-6 throttle body, Custom Adapter pipe to mate the throttle body to intake, Gti180 alternator, Gti-6 ICV, Straight through stainless exhaust system, cat cams (apparently), Avo coilovers, short shift gear stick, stripped out with fixed back bucket seat and harness, flocked dash, momo steering wheel and D2 solid boss, real carbon cold air intake, Gti-6 front calipers and 288mm disks, rear drilled and grooved disks, morette headlights, sp bonnet grill 71,456 miles
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