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Forums › The Car › 206 Problems › Peugeot 206 GTI 136BHP Timing belt change, OMG never again |
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 Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:18 am |
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OMG, I did my timing belt yesterday on a Peugeot 206 GTI, (136BHP not the 180).
I brought a Gates timing belt kit which came with the full water pump with housing, way better quality than the plastic one by Peugeot themselves, this one is all metal, the only downside to this is there is 1 bolt to remove, and 3 nuts, which at first I didnt realize were nuts on studs, I thought they were bolts, and in-order to get the whole housing off the attached metal water pipe, you have to remove the studs too, lol, 8mm socket fixed this for me, but still wasnt easy, its tight in there with no room to move.
Never again am I going to try this job, it would have been easier to lift the whole engine out, change the parts and drop the engine back in, the timing belt cover bolts are near as impossible to get too, especially the back ones with the AirCon pipes in the way, what a stupid place to put the ECU, the timing belt I fitted was that difficult to get on, I had to check 10 times it was actually the right size lol.
in the end we fitted it in a different order to what Peugeot suggested, left cam one till last, got it around everything else, crank, pulleys, water pump etc. and with all locking pins still in place, three of them, we knocked the crank out of time very slightly to give enough slack to get the belt over cam 1 and then pulled the crank back into time with the timing marks we set, even then it was a massive struggle, really dont see any need for a tensioner here, the timing belt is over tight already in my opinion, 6 and a half hours to do the job and most of the time was spent getting the timing belt cover off.
Just one other thing to add very quickly which ive never seen before, my 2 cam pulleys dont look the same, Cam 2 has some kind of heavy round weight in it which I had to remove in order to pin the cam, it just pulled out, not held in by anything, in fact, im wondering now if its even supposed to be there, once the engine is running at speed, the only thing stopping this thing from flying out is the cam cover itself, anyone ever seen anything like this before ? If the pictures dont load, please just hit the refresh button.
i64.tinypic.com/vgu90k.jpg This is cam 2 with the weight, sorry for picture quality.
i66.tinypic.com/2dvls36.jpg Cam 2 without weight
i68.tinypic.com/23vf1wo.jpg cam 1, the easy one
i67.tinypic.com/2r3frb6.jpg Gates timing belt kit
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 9:46 am |
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They arent overly fun, but at least its done now!
Try doing a cambelt and water pump with that engine in a 205 
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:48 am |
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I struggle to get the belt covers off mine and I don't have any air conditioning pipes there anymore.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:57 am |
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| Addaz wrote: |
They arent overly fun, but at least its done now!
Try doing a cambelt and water pump with that engine in a 205 |
No thanks, your alright, I think i'll skip 
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2016 2:47 pm |
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And they say 180 is PITA 
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:37 pm |
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Joined: Feb 24, 2010
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When I did mine last October, I just dropped the engine off all 3 mounts (especially as I was changing all 3 anyway) and shifted it across towards the passenger side on the crane, soon gave enough access to get at everything even with A/C etc still in place.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 9:23 pm |
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I feel your pain. I remember this, it is something I never wish to repeat!!!
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:20 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Location: Aberdeenshire
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| LeeThr wrote: |
| When I did mine last October, I just dropped the engine off all 3 mounts (especially as I was changing all 3 anyway) and shifted it across towards the passenger side on the crane, soon gave enough access to get at everything even with A/C etc still in place. |
Did you disconnect the driveshafts lee to do this? I've taken my timing covers off and am yet to put them back, not looking forward to it
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 5:00 am |
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The engine will twist enough even with the shafts still on.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:51 pm |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010
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Location: Aberdeenshire
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| Edward wrote: |
| The engine will twist enough even with the shafts still on. |
ok thanks, i think i'll give that a try when i get round to putting it back together
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