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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:00 am |
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Joined: Dec 21, 2013 Posts: 23
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Location: Yorkshire
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Hi all,
There is a nasty clattering knocking sound coming from the front end of the car, which sounds like metal hitting metal. Comes particularly on lightly rutted roads. I also have more of a popping sound from rear suspension, but that is a problem for another day. Car passed MOT with no advisories recently like this. Looking underneath nothing is broken or particularly loose. Front anti roll bar bushes look perished so will change these. The only thing that I can think is the real cause is the rear gearbox mount. This might explain why the gear lever is a bit slack.
Does anyone know how to get to and change the rear gearbox mount on these? It's very hard to see and I don't real know how to get access from below.
Thanks,
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:10 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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You sure it's not the top mounts?
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 8:50 am |
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Joined: Dec 21, 2013 Posts: 23
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Location: Yorkshire
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Is there any sure fire way to test that? Would it not have come up during the MOT?
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:58 am |
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Joined: Feb 08, 2010 Posts: 7045
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They can be perfectly solid enough for an mot but can male noise on bumpy roads.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 2:07 pm |
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Joined: Feb 16, 2010 Posts: 440
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Location: Devon
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Catch hold of the cam cover and push and pull the engine. If it moves a fair bit then it would suggest the lower engine mount.
I would of said droplinks, but that should of shown/felt up on MOT.
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:43 pm |
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There's always plenty of movement in standard mounts.
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| 2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible. | |
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:38 pm |
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Joined: Feb 07, 2010 Posts: 2720
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Replace the drop links and see if it improves.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 5:45 am |
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Joined: Dec 21, 2013 Posts: 23
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Hi, yes there is a small amount of movement for the engine. Tried also with someone prodding the accelerator with the engine running. Again a small amount of movement but not much.
ARB drop links are really tight hence I put more suspicion on the ARB bushes.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:23 am |
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They can be tight but if the bushes are gone that's where you'll get the noise.
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 11:00 am |
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Joined: Dec 21, 2013 Posts: 23
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Location: Yorkshire
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I best change the bushes first. Can I get away without disconnecting the drop links and just undo the clamps on the ARB to get straight at the bushes?
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:58 am |
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Joined: Feb 16, 2010 Posts: 440
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Biggles wrote: |
I best change the bushes first. Can I get away without disconnecting the drop links and just undo the clamps on the ARB to get straight at the bushes? |
Yep, 18mm spanner over the top of the subframe and a female torx socket will sort it out. Failing that 13mm or 1/2" ring spanner will do it. think the 1/2" fits more snug though.
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Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:45 am |
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Joined: Dec 21, 2013 Posts: 23
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Fab, thanks!
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