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SinfulDesignCom

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:54 pm

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I have read somewhere here that the standard GTi bottom hose does the job of bypassing the oil cooler on the 180... ..but the clip at the radiator is different. Will the GTi hose fit this even though it should be clipped on?? Thanks in advance


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Edward

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:59 am

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So the radiator hose doesnt use a jubilee clip?


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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:47 am

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I've noticed it's different but not looked into it tbh anymore than that. I'm looking at fitting a Mocal oil cooler kit in the new year once I have the cams and headwork done on the 180 and this is definitely a top I'm keeping my eye on to see what the results are and if you can by pass it in any way.

Edward

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 1:36 pm

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I've never seen the point in an oil cooler even on my 206 so does a road going 180 really need one?


	2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio, 307 CC 180 ratios. 2019 BMW 530i. 2017 Mercedes C300 convertible.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:09 pm

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Edward wrote:

I've never seen the point in an oil cooler even on my 206 so does a road going 180 really need one?

a road going 180 may not need one but in the new year I'll be looking at tracking it... mainly at the shows like TRAX and FCS and Pugfest which is the main reason I'm looking at fitting a oil cooler. Plus if it's got one already fitted, I'll only be uprating it.

Dan-

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:22 pm

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i managed a track day in mine, it was on average 20c air temp and i did about 10 laps of brands hatch and my oil never got to the point i though of f**k best stop, i did go to about 120c - 130c


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SinfulDesignCom

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:27 pm

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Standard 180 will not need one - but put cams and tb in and it will generate more heat and you will need one then - hence my reason for doing this. The 180 has a cooler as standard in the form of a sandwich plate between the filter, and this uses a bottom hose which incorporates this. But it is less than useless and is not up to the job of cooling for a modified lump. So... no answers yet??


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Mattie-RS

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 3:34 pm

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I have the same issue with my 197 Could you just cut the two pipes as close to the main coolant pipe then plug them?!? Then just remove the water heat transfer plate for a oil cooler sandwich plate


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Dan-

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:46 pm

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thats surprising matt! alwyas imagined Renault would have fitted one as standard on to there RS range!


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Mattie-RS

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:04 pm

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I know! Mine has the two pipes from the return coolant pipe like the 180 does. Cheap way of doing it to a standard car I'd imagine


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SinfulDesignCom

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:06 pm

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Nope - after research - it will not work. It has a metal collar on the rad end which the standard GTi does not have. Apparently the late post 2000 306 will be closest... Going to a breakers tomorrow - will keep you updated as I am sure this post will be useful in the future to others...


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Dan-

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:09 pm

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i would imagine your right! not expensive to put an aftermarket one on really is it, i just found not need when i had the 180, i know my scooby has one but i will be fitting a bigger aftermarket 1 when i go nurburgring you should come along aswell !!!!


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SinfulDesignCom

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:34 pm

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That is high on the list of destinations when finished... definately =)


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Dan-

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:38 pm

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i can't wait sort it all out!!


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Mattie-RS

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:38 pm

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Don't forget my invite


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