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 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:40 pm |
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Hi Guys,
Just brought myself a 2004 1.4 206 fever with 74k on the clock, I have noticed that the clutch pedal is very high compared to my previous car. Also when driving at about 30-40mph, if I press the throttle to speed up the revs seem to get higher but car doesn't seem to move... :S
I am unsure if the clutch is slipping of maybe the cable is stretched, anyone got any experience or ideas on this please?
Thanks
Austin
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:07 pm |
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if the revs climb and the speed is not picking up then chances are its clutch slip 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:24 pm |
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go up a hill and watch the revs dial,if it's goes up,and hear the engine sound get higher with the power of the car is not as supposed to be,then you have a slipping clutch,it's a very simple test,better with load in car.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:28 pm |
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Thanks for replies...
I think it is the clutch slipping, I was driving home earlier gave abit of throttle to speed up and the revs went higher but speed didn't seem to increase :/ has anyone got a rough estimation on costs to have this replaced?
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:37 pm |
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i wouldnt imagine its would cost alot, i know i had mine changed in my 180 but i didnt end up having to pay anything so i cant say on labour, but i did drop the gearbox on my drive to make sure the garage changed my flywheel and it took me about 2 hours i think, including tidying up so your looking at 2hours labour at a good garage
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:56 pm |
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Ok thanks, it should be easier with a 1.4 I guess... I might give it ago myself tbh, my dad is a mechanic and handy with the tools. Has anyone changed a clutch before? is there a 'How-to' or a guide somewhere that I could work off?
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:05 pm |
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i had to remove the clutch the get to the flywheel, it really isnt that hard, the hardest bit of laying on your back trying to locate the box, its not the heaviest thing in the world but after awhile it feels like lifting a car on your chest ha, you only need basic tool to do the job and its pretty straight forward job even for maby a novice i would say
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:09 pm |
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Right ok, I can get hold of an engine hoist so maybe use this to take up the weight of the box. What about the bolts to remove the box, aren't they them stupid reverse torx bolts? Also will I need to replace any seals or gearbox fluid?
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:17 pm |
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yeah even better of you can have the use of 1 of them, i used a trolly jack under the engine, tbh i cant wactually remember the type of bolts, i think they were sockets for some reason, i did it in early 2012 so my memory is shocking ha,
you will need to drain it im afraid as the seconds them shafts come out you get covered in it! but its only cheap at £20 or so
i didnt have no seal on mine, so its quite a cheap job 
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:23 pm |
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Thanks alot for your help Dan! French manufacturers usually use them stupid reverse torx's so you have to take it to a garage, i'll thrash a socket on the end if needs be! lol I'll look into getting some gearbox fluid aswell, normally takes about 2-3 litres if memory serves me right. Cheers
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:25 pm |
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No problem i know they like them reverse torx bits, i brought a full set of them when i got my 1st pug and i think i ended up using them about 5 times and got them 4 years ago "/ least the dont round off!
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:40 pm |
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Ideally you'd use an engine support beam when the gearbox is being taken off. Trolley jack under the engine isn't ideal.
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:43 pm |
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| Edward wrote: |
| Ideally you'd use an engine support beam when the gearbox is being taken off. Trolley jack under the engine isn't ideal. |
really agree with you, i just didnt have 1 i could borrow, i thought i had been fobbed off by the garage as they couldnt show me my old flywheel so i had no choice but to check myself that evening before it was to late to go back,
jack and a plank of wood see me through
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:56 pm |
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Or you could do it like a main stealers and just let the engine hang as ive seen some people do it 
(206's mainly due to the rear engine mount)
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:40 am |
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Just got a quote on having the clutch replaced at £185, which I think is a bargain of a price. Does this sound reasonable?
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Last edited by Austin on Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:22 am; edited 1 time in total
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